17th day on LETRO and next cycle

Hey guys it's my 17th day on letro.. I started too feel my joints drying up yesterday and can defo feel them being all sore today!! apart from that.. the blueberry sized gyno lump I had in my left nipple has shrinked a bit.. I was wondering how long untill it actually gets rid?
I have 13 tabs left and thinking of not ordering any more and leaving it alone.

I was told I need to taper down with tamox for a couple of weeks so that the letro dosent rebound-which may cause gyno to return. But im thinking of going straight into my next cycle and using a serm or AI whilst on or should I taper down with tamox and then go on?


I read somewhere that letro messes up lipids in body--whats this all about and what are lipids?
Is there any percautions I should take whilst on letro?


My next cycle:

dbol 30mg weeks 1-4
test 500mg weeks 1-12
adex 2 tabs a week from week 1-14 (control estrogen to stop gyno flaring up and also to keep bloat at bay)
 
week 14 start pct with novla
 
day 1 60mg
days 2-11 40mg
days 12-21 20mg


Is my next cycle ok? and please help on any of the above or any tips etc would be great. Thank You

You can stop the letro and take nolva to prevent the rebound causing gyno, I'd say if the lump is starting to shrink you might get away with just using the ones you have left. My gyno was gone in 20 days or so.

I felt like crap on it tho, even taking 1/2 eod and my joints pop all the time.. Either that or I'm getting old!

Minger

Yeah my joints click like mad in letro. Always end up pulling my neck.
I would order more letro, start your cycle, and use that instead of the adex.
Adex does sweet FA for me, and if your taking Dbol you really don't want to take chances IMO.

Thanks Minger.. I thought you might have been first to comment lol ;)
 
and skullcrusher im a little confused..I have 13 tabs left... should I jump straight into my cycle and carry on taking the letros I have untill I get more? or finish these 13 and then start cycle?
 
and isit possible to get rid of gyno whilst on cycle and also I thought Letro kills 99% of oestrogen and wont this mess my cycle up?

I'd finish seeing off the gyno before cycling on.

What skull was talking about was running letro through your next cycle as a ai, you can take 1/2 a pill every 2 or 3 days this will reduce the oestrogen not kill it completely

M

I wouldn't be running dbol full stop if I had gyno.... Not a smart move really.

Plenty of other options, adapt and overcome.

Yep, that's what I meant minger.

You will not get rid of gyno while on a cycle.. But you will stop it from getting any worse with letro (even on dbol, but you may need 1 tab E3D which is what I currently am having on my cycle which is in the heavy side!).

If your gyno is affecting you, dont go back on yet until you've sorted it to a level which you are comfortable with, it a level which you can no longer improve on.

Letro is a very strong med, but ime it doesn't affect the gains made on a cycle (not real gains anyway).
If taking 1 tab per day though, it just makes training difficult with bones cracking all the time and making you more prone to getting an injury.

Lipids - your Total, HDL and LDL levels.
 
A low estrogen environment has a negative impact on your cholesterol levels (good ones go down, bad ones go up). Not as much as AAS will cause, but there is still a negative impact.

Thanks Vibora and Sawdust.. Why doy you say this.. if all percautions such as the right AI are taken.. then why should there be a problem?
 
and ok skullcrusher.. ill carry on and see where I end up..but too be entirley honest,theres not much difference since iv'e been taking them. but once im happy wether I loose the lump or not..should I taper down with tamox or isit ok for me to start my cycle?

Just because theres plenty of other less oestrogenic options mate which will produce similar gains with less potential for problems.


Like I said, adapt and overcome, tailor your usage to fit your situation.


An AI might be sufficient, it might not though.... I don't suffer from gyno but if I did I'd just adapt, why dbol I guess is what I'd be asking myself?

Well i suppose you could go straight into a cycle once you've ran letro for the desired amount of time. If you do that, just take 1 tab E3D to make sure you are covered.

As Sawdust said, Dbol is not best choice for anyone gyno prone, although I run it myself and stay covered with letro. Everyone is different though I suppose.

Yeah, plenty of ways to skin the cat mate, whatever works for you.

Just offering an alternative view really, not saying it should be off the menu all together by any means.

Right thanks guys

Maybe use some adex on cycle or tamoxifen if you use dbol. I find letro really harsh, fcuks up my mood also. Maybe I haven't tried for long enough to get used to it.