1st epistane cycle need feedback!

alright ppl
 
so iv just brought some epistane from this supplement shop and wanted some advice on it. From what iv read it sounds like a good choice, although im worried about a pct.
The bloke in the shop said it wouldn't need a pct although i think different.
 
Anyway here is how im planning to cycle it, so would like some feed back ect on how to improve it.   thanks.
 
30/30/30/30 epistane
520 mg milk thistle
240 mg cod liver oil
multi vits
 
pct: 520 mg milk thistle
       b6
       700 mg natural test booster
       zma

I'd look at extending that cycle to 6 weeks.
 
And you're right to think different.
 
Not sure what this 700mg nat test booster is, but try and get hold of a serm (Nolva or Clomid). If you do want to use a test booster (something like testforce, hcgenerate etc) then use these in addition to Nolva/Clomid.
 
 

Hi,
 
your PCT isnt a pct.
 
Ideally run a serm, otherwise i would opt for something like Reversitol and consider adding a testbooster lik testforce or hcgenerate
 
remember, these are steroids you're running and you should consider PCT as important as the cycle itself

6 weeks definately on Epi.

monkemagic


alright ppl

so iv just brought some epistane from this supplement shop and wanted some advice on it. From what iv read it sounds like a good choice, although im worried about a pct.
The bloke in the shop said it wouldn't need a pct although i think different.

Anyway here is how im planning to cycle it, so would like some feed back ect on how to improve it.   thanks.

30/30/30/30 epistane
520 mg milk thistle
240 mg cod liver oil
multi vits

pct: 520 mg milk thistle
     b6
     700 mg natural test booster
     zma

Firstly:
520 mg Milk thistle is not enough, 8580mg three times a day is better.
240mg Cod Oil not enough, Omega 3 1000mg three times a day is better.
Nolva for PCT IMO with the Milk thistle and Omega3.

agree on above, extend to at least 5 weeks and please plan a real PCT.

I'm still in pct of my first EPI cycle,i took 30/30/30/40/40/40 now i'm into week 3 nolva(tamoxifen),at 20/20/10/10.
i did start taking milkthistle at the start,but was giving me the skits,so stoped.
the only other thing i took was fish oil,as it can dry your joints out,but i take it anyway,so i didn't realy add it.
other than that,just a ballanced diet,and plenty of water.
Good luck,hope you enjoy it.
 
Oh,and i checked my BP regular just to keep an eye on it .

cheers ppl
so up the dosages on milk thistle,cod liver {which has omega 3 in} 
 
extend the cycle length and iv optained some esto suppress although i read its not what it says on the bottle. but i cant get nolva,clomid or tamox as live in germany unless theres a site for purchase
also iv brought advance pct by Anabolic Xtrem. hope this is enough and thanks for the advice

EPi is very mild on the liver, you need around 600mg a day of pure extract not 8580mg or whatever someone suggested above. its not a bad methylated compound so provided you dont drink and you have plenty of water dont worry about not taking too much milk thistle! and it should be preloaded 1-2 weeks as its effects are not instant! But i would definitly at least do 5 weeks rather than 4. If its your first ever ph cycle then just be careful and 6 weeks could be a bit too much

P.s esto supress and a test booster is mooooooore than enough for a Epi PCT

jay_b


P.s esto supress and a test booster is mooooooore than enough for a Epi PCT

thats assuming we know whats in esto suppress... of which none of us members do. only the manufacturer does.
 
the ingredient on the bottle as far as i can tell doesnt exist and they advertise it as a 'legal serm' which i would love to see their evidence behind it which i have never seen and i've searched
 
i would run reversitol if you want otc, or a REAL serm like tamoxifen, plus a testbooster like testforce or hcgenerate

m118

jay_b


P.s esto supress and a test booster is mooooooore than enough for a Epi PCT

thats assuming we know whats in esto suppress... of which none of us members do. only the manufacturer does.

the ingredient on the bottle as far as i can tell doesnt exist and they advertise it as a 'legal serm' which i would love to see their evidence behind it which i have never seen and i've searched

i would run reversitol if you want otc, or a REAL serm like tamoxifen, plus a testbooster like testforce or hcgenerate

 
Yep i certainly dont disagree with you however i know alot of people who have used esto-supress and a test booster such as androbolix for a PCT and its done the job very well!

jay_b

m118

jay_b


P.s esto supress and a test booster is mooooooore than enough for a Epi PCT

thats assuming we know whats in esto suppress... of which none of us members do. only the manufacturer does.

the ingredient on the bottle as far as i can tell doesnt exist and they advertise it as a 'legal serm' which i would love to see their evidence behind it which i have never seen and i've searched

i would run reversitol if you want otc, or a REAL serm like tamoxifen, plus a testbooster like testforce or hcgenerate

Yep i certainly dont disagree with you however i know alot of people who have used esto-supress and a test booster such as androbolix for a PCT and its done the job very well!

I would still personally opt to run something that you know what is in side it, plus we have no idea how recovered these people are without pre and post bloods. Other than how they feel and how much they have maintained. if their test is just above being in the range of normal then they might feel normal but might still have considerably lower test levels than before starting the cycle
 
and I know many guys who have run tribulus for pct and claim to be fine too
 
In a mini summary, just because a few guys claim they are fine why risk it with a product that none of know whats in it? It could be a repackaged serm, or atd, or 6bromo, 6oxo, triibulus or maltodextrin.
 
Not trying to be argumentative but I do feel a need to discourage people from running compounds where if the manufacturer cant label the bottle correctly despite selling a considerable number then is this a product we should risk taking when there are many other more trustful/reliable companies out there to choose from

Yeh i know what your saying but these *people* i know have had bloods taken after and everything has been normal after and a full recovery has been made, thats after superdrol, M1t and other compounds. I never said anything about how they judge their recovery on how they feel, they actually have bloods to prove it.  Anyway epi is very mild hence why its recommended along with h-drol for begginers so esto supress and a test booster would still be more than enough for recovery.

cheers jayb and m118 for the extra advice and letting me know the pct is good enough, and im gonna make sure i get a blood test after the pct finished. Oh and im running the cycle for 5 wks nows instead.