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1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
03 February 2012 21:24
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Evening fellas. I've been training for 6 years completely natural, im looking to do my 1st cycle of PH from Dragon Nutrition. Im looking at Pro-Halo for my course with Dragon Nutritions Pro-ATD for PCT, is this sufficient or will I need to take anything else for my course in regards to liver support or PCT? Thanks in advance
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Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
03 February 2012 21:45
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for pro-halo i personally would be happy using atd for PCT although i think most on here would choose to run a SERM such as nolva. As far as support supplements its a personal choice but either milk thistle or liv52 for liver protection and hawthorn berry extract to help with blood pressure are popular
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Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
03 February 2012 21:50
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I really appreciate the input mate, in regards to nolva or clomid where do I get them from (this isn't a source request) do I just buy them from the chemist or what?
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Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
03 February 2012 23:29
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unfortunately it is a source request as they are prescription only but google is your friend
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Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
04 February 2012 01:13
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ProHalo is a mild compound so ATD "should" be suffice for a PCT.. despite that is always user-dependend (age, hormone-profile, etc..) so I prefer suggest a SERM in any case. personally I always use a SERM.
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Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
04 February 2012 10:42
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Halo would be good.... I reckon you'd get a better effect with it if you took Pro-One or Pro-Stano alongside it. Just my idea... as Pro-One can also act as an AI... so with that being run throughout the cycle, I reckon ATD would be fine as a PCT. Either way, Halo would make you some descent gains
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Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
04 February 2012 11:17
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although pro-one or stano are nice additions for a first cycle i wouldnt put either in, first cycles need to be simple to help you learn about how your body reacts 6 weeks halo @75mg each day
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Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
04 February 2012 11:25
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Thanks again chaps, a few more questions... Is Pro-Halo unmethylated? 75mg a day, is this 3 tabs in one go or 3 spaced through out the day? Will it affect my bp, as im already on bp meds for slightly raised bp which is now controlled by the meds?
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Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
04 February 2012 13:03
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Pro Halo is methylated. 75mg, 3 caps spread evenly apart. Yes, Hdrol is noted for raising bp. As for the PCT, I'd still recommend a Serm (nolva or clomid). Can run a testbooster like DAA, hcgenerate alongside, but Hdrol is still a strong compound.
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Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
04 February 2012 13:12
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Can you recommend anything from Dragon Nutrition that isn't as harsh as H-Drol that will not increase bp
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Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
04 February 2012 13:44
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unfortunately all of these type of compound have the potential for raising BP. Epi maybe a better choice but this may still raise BP. for me rather than taking hawthorn berry i simply munch on a couple of sticks of celery this maybe a suitable option for you . if you choose epi i would run it for 6 weeks @ 20-30mg each day (2 to 3 caps)
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Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
04 February 2012 15:30
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How about Pro-Tren? Or just Pro-One by its self?
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Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
04 February 2012 15:36
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I would say possibly Pro-Epi on the bassis that although H-Drol tends to be vrey mild for most the most common side I see people complain of is BP.
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Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
04 February 2012 16:21
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Wont kill ya though, a touch of high BP... and its only temporary. When I came off Mass-58 and had an ECG reading, I came back as a Borderline Hypertensive - a month later, I was fine and healthy (according to the reading)
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Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
04 February 2012 21:20
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Liebow Wont kill ya though, a touch of high BP... and its only temporary. For the average joe, yes. But the OP already has high BP and is currently on prescription meds for it.
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Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
05 February 2012 10:15
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i assume the meds will keep your bp in check then? hdrol gave me raised bp not tried epi but Lone Wolf ran oxavar recently & had great results with no sides. if you're using atd as a pct remember to taper it down ie: wk1 3 tabs ed wk2 2 tabs ed wk3-4 1 tab ed
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Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
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Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH
05 February 2012 14:14
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if you have bp problems maybe you should consider avoid ph at all or plan with care the compound to run.
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