1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH


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1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 03 February 2012 21:24 (permalink)
Evening fellas.
 
I've been training for 6 years completely natural, im looking to do my 1st cycle of PH from Dragon Nutrition.
 
Im looking at Pro-Halo for my course with Dragon Nutritions Pro-ATD for PCT, is this sufficient or will I need to take anything else for my course in regards to liver support or PCT?
 
Thanks in advance
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    Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 03 February 2012 21:45 (permalink)
    for pro-halo i personally would be happy using atd for PCT although i think most on here would choose to run a SERM such as nolva. As far as support supplements its a personal choice but either milk thistle or liv52 for liver protection and hawthorn berry extract to help with blood pressure are popular
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      Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 03 February 2012 21:50 (permalink)
      I really appreciate the input mate, in regards to nolva or clomid where do I get them from (this isn't a source request) do I just buy them from the chemist or what?
      Current: 17.3 stone 
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        Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 03 February 2012 23:29 (permalink)
        unfortunately it is a source request as they are prescription only but google is your friend
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          Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 04 February 2012 01:13 (permalink)
          ProHalo is a mild compound so ATD "should" be suffice for a PCT..
           
          despite that is always user-dependend (age, hormone-profile, etc..) so I prefer suggest a SERM in any case.
           
          personally I always use a SERM.
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            Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 04 February 2012 10:42 (permalink)
            Halo would be good.... I reckon you'd get a better effect with it if you took Pro-One or Pro-Stano alongside it. Just my idea... as Pro-One can also act as an AI... so with that being run throughout the cycle, I reckon ATD would be fine as a PCT.
            Either way, Halo would make you some descent gains
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              Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 04 February 2012 11:17 (permalink)
              although pro-one or stano are nice additions for a first cycle i wouldnt put either in, first cycles need to be simple to help you learn about how your body reacts
               
              6 weeks halo @75mg each day
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                Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 04 February 2012 11:25 (permalink)
                Thanks again chaps, a few more questions...
                 
                Is Pro-Halo unmethylated?
                 
                75mg a day, is this 3 tabs in one go or 3 spaced through out the day?
                 
                Will it affect my bp, as im already on bp meds for slightly raised bp which is now controlled by the meds?
                 
                Current: 17.3 stone 
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                Deadlift: 200kg
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                  Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 04 February 2012 13:03 (permalink)
                  Pro Halo is methylated.
                   
                  75mg, 3 caps spread evenly apart.
                   
                  Yes, Hdrol is noted for raising bp.
                   
                  As for the PCT, I'd still recommend a Serm (nolva or clomid). Can run a testbooster like DAA, hcgenerate alongside, but Hdrol is still a strong compound.
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                    Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 04 February 2012 13:12 (permalink)
                    Can you recommend anything from Dragon Nutrition that isn't as harsh as H-Drol that will not increase bp
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                      Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 04 February 2012 13:44 (permalink)
                      unfortunately all of these type of compound have the potential for raising BP. Epi maybe a better choice but this may still raise BP. for me rather than taking hawthorn berry i simply munch on a couple of sticks of celery this maybe a suitable option for you . if you choose epi i would run it for 6 weeks @ 20-30mg each day (2 to 3 caps)
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                        Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 04 February 2012 15:30 (permalink)
                        How about Pro-Tren? Or just Pro-One by its self?

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                          Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 04 February 2012 15:36 (permalink)
                          I would say possibly Pro-Epi on the bassis that although H-Drol tends to be vrey mild for most the most common side I see people complain of is BP.

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                            Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 04 February 2012 16:21 (permalink)
                            Wont kill ya though, a touch of high BP... and its only temporary.
                            When I came off Mass-58 and had an ECG reading, I came back as a Borderline Hypertensive - a month later, I was fine and healthy (according to the reading)

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                              Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 04 February 2012 21:20 (permalink)
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                              Wont kill ya though, a touch of high BP... and its only temporary.

                               
                              For the average joe, yes. But the OP already has high BP and is currently on prescription meds for it.
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                                Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 05 February 2012 10:15 (permalink)
                                i assume the meds will keep your bp in check then?
                                 
                                hdrol gave me raised bp not tried epi but Lone Wolf ran oxavar recently & had great results with no sides.
                                 
                                if you're using atd as a pct remember to taper it down ie:
                                wk1 3 tabs ed
                                wk2 2 tabs ed
                                wk3-4 1 tab ed
                                 
                                 
                                 
                                 
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                                  Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 05 February 2012 10:19 (permalink)
                                   
                                   
                                   
                                   
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                                    Re:1st time user, advice wanted, Dragon Nutrition PH 05 February 2012 14:14 (permalink)
                                    if you have bp problems maybe you should consider avoid ph at all or plan with care the compound to run.
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