200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS?

Just how much assistance is a shirt? Can some people please post their  lifts with and without shirt to give me idea please.

Thanks

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Irish Beast


Just how much assistance is a shirt? Can some people please post their  lifts with and without shirt to give me idea please.

Thanks

Anywere from 10%-60% carry over mate, varies from how tight the shirt and just the person in genral.

I know a few guys whose benching I'm dubious of, one reckoned he could bench 180kg, of course none of them say they can bench that much now. They might be getting kg and pounds mixed up I suspect, ie this tiny/well skinny guy reckoned he could bench 90kg for reps, when it might have been 45 pounds each side, or 60kg, which is how much he can bench now apparently.

Well, the raw record is 715, the shirted is approaching 1100 pounds!

Not everyone touches the bar to their chest of course, so the ROM might be lacking.

War Lord


Not everyone touches the bar to their chest of course, so the ROM might be lacking.

although you can actually "bench" more weight by bouncing the bar off your chest, than stopping an inch short of your chest.

calm down, its life, mate, its only a game

Scott32

Irish Beast


Just how much assistance is a shirt? Can some people please post their  lifts with and without shirt to give me idea please.

Thanks

Anywere from 10%-60% carry over mate, varies from how tight the shirt and just the person in genral.

More like 0-100+.. my best raw bench is 265lbs, best shirted is 450lbs

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Really! Didn't know that.

I remember having this conversation before but Im gonna start it again cos I dont remember the outcome!

Why dont they just ban them? Surely a better shirt would give you an advantage over a lesser shirt?

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cricket_fire


More like 0-100+.. my best raw bench is 265lbs, best shirted is 450lbs

Big carry over mate, i would say carry-overs like that are few and far between.

Bet your shirts tight.. any struggle to bring it down to your chest? Ive tried a couple on and the last one was super tight, couldnt bring 180kg down to my chest lol! Left me with some nice brusing as well.

I have seen a few people do this at power lifting comps.

While many people will never get to 200kg bench. There are a few people who can do far more than 200kg raw and natural.

Scott32


I think the chance of a 200kg raw and without gear is TINY.

Even with gear is small! LOL

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Scott32

cricket_fire


More like 0-100+.. my best raw bench is 265lbs, best shirted is 450lbs

Bet your shirts tight.. any struggle to bring it down to your chest? Ive tried a couple on and the last one was super tight, couldnt bring 180kg down to my chest lol! Left me with some nice brusing as well.

Neither could I, well, not under any sort of control anyway!!!!
 
 

LMC, thats got me written all over it, if your not used to a shirt it just feels strange, takes a while to get good at it. Totally differant excersise bench pressing is when you bring a shirt into it.

Ive got a 170kg bench raw, shirted i havnt even achieved that due to it just feeling odd.

My bench is sh1t with or without gear!!!!
Ive never seen a genuine clean 200kg but have seen it done by a 'user'.
Obviously it can be done, the chances of it are very small.

"You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on." Dean Martin

Wha do people mean in there opinion it is possible?? of course it is bloody possible for "certain" people which are probably very rare.

I know a lad who is big strong athletic and can bench 200kg has never trained seriously and never intends to do steroids,its just strength he naturally has.

Some people are weak fukers some are strong.

The guy in question sounds like a pillock anyway and I wouldn't give a sh1t what he could bench.

If you love something let it go,if it comes back to you it's yours,if it doesn't it never was.

Few and far between in most gyms I would say, with or without gear. Definitely possible natural but that guy sounds like a grade A bullsh1tter tbh

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Irish Beast

Fat Pete has done 205 if i'm not mistaken

Your memory does you credit, but that was shirted. Without shirt my best (to competition standard) is 172.5.

I know of one man who has and still can do 200 without shirt or drugs. I personally have seen him do 227.5 and I know he has done 250. But he is a world class bencher, a surperb talent. His best ever squat and deadlift are similar to mine, but his bench is in a different league. He is a joy to watch, it's like watching a fish swim, I don't know how it does it but I do know that is how it should be done.

He is the only one though. Even Alan, the coach, who is now in his 70s said that he was the only one he had seen. Rare, very rare.

"'You have less frontal development that I should have expected,' said he, at last. 'It is a dangerous habit to finger loaded firearms in the pocket of one's dressing-gown.'

Irish Beast


Just how much assistance is a shirt? Can some people please post their  lifts with and without shirt to give me idea please.

172.5 / 205 for me.

It can vary a lot. There are many types of shirt to start with depending on which federation you lift in.

For single ply, a ballpark figure is 20 percent extra, but as I say it can vary a lot

"'You have less frontal development that I should have expected,' said he, at last. 'It is a dangerous habit to finger loaded firearms in the pocket of one's dressing-gown.'

makaveli1971 1996


Wha do people mean in there opinion it is possible?? of course it is bloody possible for "certain" people which are probably very rare.

I know a lad who is big strong athletic and can bench 200kg has never trained seriously and never intends to do steroids,its just strength he naturally has.

Some people are weak fukers some are strong.

The guy in question sounds like a pillock anyway and I wouldn't give a sh1t what he could bench.

lol that i find hard to believe so he just trains every now and then benches 200kg when he gets round to it

start weight 68kg
best lifts
bench: 170kg 3 reps cg 155kg single
deadlift: 185kg 2 reps
squat: 200 kg 2 reps
clean and press 100kg 2 rep
weight: 108kg bf 14% ish
status:cutting
 

Fat Pete

Irish Beast


Just how much assistance is a shirt? Can some people please post their  lifts with and without shirt to give me idea please.

172.5 / 205 for me.

It can vary a lot. There are many types of shirt to start with depending on which federation you lift in.

For single ply, a ballpark figure is 20 percent extra, but as I say it can vary a lot

So you can't just turn up wearing whatever shirt you want? I didn't know that you see.

I assume each federation has criteria as to which the shirt must conform to then?

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