200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS?

Yes its possible, but what would have caused me to disbelieve him is the same as you.

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I assume each federation has criteria as to which the shirt must conform to then?

Indeed they do. Single ply, double ply, maybe triple ply, open backed, closed backed.  I lift in the IPF which allows only single ply, close backed shirts which are the tamest of all the shirts. Some of the others are wild indeed. I don't know the ins and outs of them all as frankly I don't need to.  Some of the wilder shirt wearers can bench more than they deadlift.  I find that very strange

"'You have less frontal development that I should have expected,' said he, at last. 'It is a dangerous habit to finger loaded firearms in the pocket of one's dressing-gown.'

Irish Beast

Why dont they just ban them? Surely a better shirt would give you an advantage over a lesser shirt?

Because the shirt manufacturers put a lot of money into the sport and not many others do. If you upset them a huge slice of income disappears. Most lifters (but by no means all) regard them as a necessary evil

"'You have less frontal development that I should have expected,' said he, at last. 'It is a dangerous habit to finger loaded firearms in the pocket of one's dressing-gown.'

Course its possible, I benched over 200kg as a natty 20 years ago, these were touch and go and not with a pause though, at around 18 stone.

Marvin Eder (lb for lb one of the strongest men to have ever lived) benched 235kg at around 20 and at under 200lb (was 3rd person in USA to do this) this was early 50's apparently 3 years before Dianabol was brought to the US so you can be sure it was natty. There are loads of Photo's on the web of this guy pressing, overhead pressing, dipping etc.. due to him breaking world records that were recorded. He retired from competing/lifting at 23 and all his lifes were natty. His single rep dip (photo is on the web) of 430-440lb has still never been approached. Granted he was a genetic freak but its an inspiration for the natty trainer.

He may not have known what a bench shirt is unless he is into powerlifting, he might not ever have heard of one. And 200kg natty is perfectly possible for some folk.

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Enjoyed reading about Marvin Eder on here and then a few extra bits I just read.

Yes mate he could still do sets of 50 rep chins approaching 70! Apparently he'd never deadlifted before and after a short training session deadlifted 300kg lol. His development at 18 was worldclass even by the standards of todays AAS using 18 year olds.

Long forgotten by all those not interested in the early strenght athletes. Imo his weighted dips and chins will stand for many years to come.

got a mate who used to use AAS, hasnt for many years and tells me he can still bench 200kg. Seen him do that assisted but not clean, wouldnt doubt him though very very strong guy, very strong in the legs too.

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So how does the shirt work, by keeping your muscles tight thus allowing you to generate more force?

James M


So how does the shirt work, by keeping your muscles tight thus allowing you to generate more force?

you ever seen a video of a shirted guy walking up to the bench, arms extended right in front of him? well that is the position the shirt wants to be in, as you lower the weight, the arms of the shirt want to "spring" back into position, helping you press the bar off your chest.
 

calm down, its life, mate, its only a game

i think thats how it works, anyway lol. cant say i have ever used any equipment other than a belt.
can any of the power lifters on here tell me the difference between closed and open back shirts?

calm down, its life, mate, its only a game

So how do shirts actually help? 

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Must admit I've never heard of them.

You did gain far too much fat though,I mean,you're not muscular at all,you're just a fat mess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkMSVHqPfrE

"'You have less frontal development that I should have expected,' said he, at last. 'It is a dangerous habit to finger loaded firearms in the pocket of one's dressing-gown.'

I think its possible for a lot of people if they possess the required amount of dedication. This might mean gaining 50kg of bodyweight in some cases but still, it should be attainable.

22.5kg to go.

http://www.criticalbenc...m/bench-press-shirts.htm

"'You have less frontal development that I should have expected,' said he, at last. 'It is a dangerous habit to finger loaded firearms in the pocket of one's dressing-gown.'

My best mate benched 170kg at 20 years old and, while he goes to the gym a lot, is not what I would consider a serious trainer and doesnt train as a powerlifter.
 
He would not know what a benching shirt is and I doubt he would know what a deadlift is.

Fat Pete

Some of the wilder shirt wearers can bench more than they deadlift.  I find that very strange

That's beyond strange and way over into the Twilight Zone!

"bring me an ambalamps" - mouthy dude after getting his arse handed to him

ok i think this thread is getting a bit silly now, claims of "a lot of people could do it" or brushing it off as not a great achievement are completely under mining just how few people can actually do this.

i think the most sense has been spoken by Fat Pete in this thread, himself a natty and benching 205kg with a shirt, as i said this bloke was not a patch on Pete in terms of size or knowledge.

in fact those people saying many natty's can do it, why not post your lifts up?

wow there seem to be a lot of 17-20 year olds that can out-bench Papa-Lazarou and Fat Pete...and the rest of us