200kg bench - would you believe this/possible without AAS?

My bench is piss poor these days due to a torn shoulder buddy.  Gone are my 180kg days alas LOL.

Maybe one day I will get back to the dizzy heights eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKSB_j84HJ0

Found it, hope this works. Think he has gone heavier recently.

KILO*


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKSB_j84HJ0

Found it, hope this works. Think he has gone heavier recently.

Could at least but his back flat on the bench

Powerlifting technique used in competitions. They don't bench the typical bodybuilding style. Think hes ranked 6th or so in the world at his weight division (equipped) though not sure of which federation. Got a 250kg bench equipped as well on there, damn strong for 24 IMO.

hes got a 300kg for 2 squat aswell

KILO*


Powerlifting technique used in competitions. They don't bench the typical bodybuilding style. Think hes ranked 6th or so in the world at his weight division (equipped) though not sure of which federation. Got a 250kg bench equipped as well on there, damn strong for 24 IMO.

How much would his bench decrease if he was flat?

I reckon I could add 20kg to my bench if I did it that way

winner

I hate when threads like this pop up and the words "easy" and "many people" come up - the difference between "possible" and "easy" is huge.



Shirts work by essentially stretching in the chest as you lower the bar, building up tension, which aids in the press.

Closed back is easier to get on, get set up, and jack (jacking a shirt = putting it on in a way that gives extra support by manipulating the collar/chest/sleeves)

Thanks for the info Fat Pete.

Very interesting indeed.

AWG; arch and try it.

As an aside a small arch is a very good thing whilst benching for any purpose.

steve124149


wow there seem to be a lot of 17-20 year olds that can out-bench Papa-Lazarou and Fat Pete...and the rest of us

green doesnt suit you mate ;)

I think it would be ill informed and naieve to suggest that suited benching is easy, but now having read the descriptions of how they work i think they seem like a great idea to help train and improve your raw bench (assuming they do of course) but i can't understand the appeal.

Interesting to read the variations in rules from one federation to another. To me anything other than raw and unassisted isn't worth competing as it's the suit competing not the lifter.

All IMHO of course and not judging those of you who do use them and compete - it's still damn impressive stuff.

i have never seen a shirt bench 200kg, have you??

I don't like sportsmen that take drugs. Its the drugs competing :)

The lifter is using the suit/shirt. It's an old debate though which is getting off topic but..

From my own experince, as an unequipped lifter trying to make it equipped, equipped lifting is harder, more technical and more of a bloody pain in the ass! It's a combination of this challenge and the fact you lift more that attracts people to equipped lifting. Plus the fact that it is the more competitive (in general) than any unequipped division. Although WPC Unequipped looked a fantastic meet!

As for drug free 200kg bench, Yes it's possible but very very rare. Then to do it at a meet is even harder. Sivvy is a big beast manchild of a young man (and good to cuddle too!) and may very well do a 200kg bench in the gym before long. But he is unusually big and strong and not a common occuranceby any means. Lets face it even with gear a 200kg bench is uncommon!

No - but i have seen a suit assist somebody benching 200kg (YouTube though )

A spotter could assist somebody bench 200kg - would that be acceptable?

The point is where do you draw the line - for me i draw the line at assisted. The presser should be the one to do the lift in my opinion - of course there are variations between federations.

Do you agree with all federations?

Would it be ok to have a massive rubber band pulling the elbows together and therefore assisting the lift. I'm confident that you will draw the line somewhere.

At a veyr basic level there are assisted and raw lifts - i happen to be more of a fan of raw lifts.

iaink




As for drug free 200kg bench, Yes it's possible but very very rare. Then to do it at a meet is even harder. Sivvy is a big beast manchild of a young man (and good to cuddle too!) and may very well do a 200kg bench in the gym before long. But he is unusually big and strong and not a common occuranceby any means. Lets face it even with gear a 200kg bench is uncommon!

awww shucks xx

iaink


I don't like sportsmen that take drugs. Its the drugs competing :)

The lifter is using the suit/shirt. It's an old debate though which is getting off topic but..

From my own experince, as an unequipped lifter trying to make it equipped, equipped lifting is harder, more technical and more of a bloody pain in the ass! It's a combination of this challenge and the fact you lift more that attracts people to equipped lifting. Plus the fact that it is the more competitive (in general) than any unequipped division. Although WPC Unequipped looked a fantastic meet!

This is why you have raw lifting vs equipped, natural vs assisted.

I'm not condemning equipped lifting or suggesting it should be stopped. But the drugs would help somebody to get their body to a point where they can manage the lift - but you can't take them away. You could remove a suit or shirt from the equation in seconds.

Could somebody more knowledgeable about the differences between federations say which is the most extreme ? (in terms of how much the suit helps)

Multi-ply feds such as BPC/WPC allow the highest level of support; multiple layers in the suits, supportive briefs worn underneath, different materials and longer knees wraps.

Further some US multi-ply feds judge to bastardised ideals passing very high squats and unlocked out benches etc etc.

Well this is an old chestnut if ever there was one lol, but I've never been a fan of the old powered exoskeletons myself

Shame they seem to be creeping into strongman more these days too. You can't beat a bit of actual raw lifting IMHO

i guarentee if you tried a suit/shirt you would think differently

drab4


Well this is an old chestnut if ever there was one lol, but I've never been a fan of the old powered exoskeletons myself

Shame they seem to be creeping into strongman more these days too. You can't beat a bit of actual raw lifting IMHO

Exactly. Its just not a true test of strength when you have help. Its like me saying I can bench 200kilos as long as my mate is helping me push up the bar!