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 Advice for 2nd Cycle and PCT please


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Advice for 2nd Cycle and PCT please 28 January 2012 14:00 (permalink)
I'm about to embark on my second cycle and was wondering how you guys think it looks and if I should change/add anything to my cycle:

week 1 - 6: 30mg Dbol (blue hearts) ED
week 1 - 10: 200mg deca
week 1 - 12: 750mg test e

My first cycle I ran 20 mg DBol ED for 4 weeks and 500mg test E weeks 1 - 12.

Starting weight before first cycle = 69kg
weight at end of cycle = 78kg
weight after PCT = 75kg

My PCT after my first cycle in my mind was pretty shocking, I went on the advice of a mate of mine who to be fair looks awesome and swears by his methods. He said 2 weeks after last jab inject 1500iu HCG (IM) 4 days after that inject another 1500iu then 7 days after that inject the last 1500iu.
After my last jab of HCG he said to start taking clomid 150mg day one, 100mg for 7 days after that then 50mg for 7days after that.

As it goes I went with what he said but I had some bad luck with the HCG when it came to open the vials. They simply just seemed to shatter in my hands so a couple bloody fingers and thumbs my mate then suggests I ditch the HCG and run with the clomid. Now after reading a couple threads on here I cant help thinking the PCT advice I got seems to have been about as usefull as an ashtray on a motorbike, I only hope I've not caused any lasting or permanent damage.

Any way, sorry to go on but any help adn advice would be greatly appreciated
 
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    Re:Advice for 2nd Cycle and PCT please 29 January 2012 16:36 (permalink)
    many ways to do hcg my friend...
     
    some use it under the cycle. some use it at the end of the cycle. and others use hcg after the cycle when doing pct..
     
    why use 750mg test a week and only 200mg deca ? this will be ur second cycle. so 500mg test e will do the job. i would bump the deca up to 400mg..
     
    what is ur idea 4 pct ??

     
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      Re:Advice for 2nd Cycle and PCT please 31 January 2012 10:30 (permalink)
      Thanks for the reply, reason for the 750mg of test was really of the advice of a friend he said to double up on what I ran on my 1st cycle. As to the exact reason behind it I don't know but I know my body responded well to Test on my first cycle as well as the Dbol not much by the way of sides at all. I also thought with deca being a new compound I'm throwing into the mix best to start off low and see how I get on??
       
      As for PCT, this is where you're advice would be really helpfull. I'm not sure what to do for best wheter to use HCG for PCT, before PCT or during cycle?? I read running clomid and nolva together for PCT is pretty standard however how much I would take and for how long in relation to what I'm gonna run on this cycle is again something I could do with some decent advice on.
       
      So say on cycle I run:
      week 1 - 6 30mg dbol
      week 1 - 10 400mg deca
      week 1 - 12 500mg deca
       
      for PCT 2 weeks after last test jab something like:
      Day 1 : 50mg clomid, 60mg nolva
      Day 2 - 11: 100mg clomid, 40mg nolva
      Day 12 - 21: 50mg clomid, 20mg nolva
       
      Does that look ok?? any thing I should add or change in your opinion?? I do also have adex on hand for during cycle, I don't tend do bloat or really suffer from any other sides or at least I didn't on my first cycle but thought it best to have it anyway just incase.
       
       
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        Re:Advice for 2nd Cycle and PCT please 31 January 2012 12:15 (permalink)
        Leave PCT 3 weeks after Deca iirc. So run the test for 1 week longer.
         
        PCT looks fine. Use hcg in your cycle or in the last weeks of your cycle when you wait to do PCT 250 iu x 2 a week. You can use it throughout your cycle too at those doses.
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