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Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 17:44
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Hi guys, Was hoping someone could advise on what drugs to use on a lean gain cycle. Expensiv is not too much of a factor as long as it ain't too extreme.
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 17:46
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need to know some previous cycle use and stats mate
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 17:53
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Previously done a 12 week cycle of sust / proviron. Just fancy doing something a bit cleaner to get an athletic look, was thinking of 10 wk Test E and Tren.
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 17:57
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diet determines lean gains not aas used.
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 18:03
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A valid point and I understand how paramount a strict diet is. Though what i'm trying to say is that i would like some advice on a cycle to give me a hard look with minimal water retention. Advice on what drugs that are best to aid this with a strict diet is what i want to know.
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 18:11
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as this is your second cycle i wouldnt advise tren, so id go with sust again but with an ai instead of proviron. That along with a strict diet should keep water to a minimum. Or other options for a lean bulk would be to add a low dose of test (250mg pw) to EQ or primo.
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 18:22
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Cheers Arnold, i'm going to do some more research into these and see what will work out best for me .
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 18:28
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if you dont mind a longer cycle week 1 1200 eq week 3 900eq weeks 3-13 600 eq weeks 14-18 lovely jubbly if you dont want a long cycle weeks 1-10 400 mast e, 250 test e maybe add tbol weeks 1-4
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started at 68kg PB,s bench: 170kg 3 reps cg 155kg single deadlift: 5 reps 245kg 1RM 260kg @knee height squat: 200 kg 2 reps clean and press 100kg 2 rep 110 1RM weight:108kg bf 14%~
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 19:31
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JoshLarge could try, mast 600mg weeks 1-10 test 300mg weeks weeks 1-10 winny weeks 6-12 not keen on that cycle at all
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 19:36
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ally81, a good lean cycle is just to use test alongside an AI to avoid any water retention. Very cost effective, and will produce better gains than any of the so called lean gain meds. Test cycles are IMO also the easier ones to recover from. test enan/cyp at 500mg pw and 25mg aromasin ED would be a good cycle. combine it with a pretty strict sorted diet, and some cardio and it will be very effective indeed. if you wanted to add in something else, then maybe look to 6 weeks winny alongside it, or maybe even anavar for the whole cycle. But from experience its alot of extra cost, for little extra benefit. I dont see anything wrong in adding tren into a second cycle if you really wanted to, but i honestly dont see that at this stage you would gain much from it.
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 21:00
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^^dazc, would it just be x1 25mg tab per week?? Quite expensive aromasin at about hundred quid for box of 30....is that a fair price?
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 21:49
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strikalite ^^dazc, would it just be x1 25mg tab per week?? Quite expensive aromasin at about hundred quid for box of 30....is that a fair price? no mate, it would be 25mg per day. we cant discuss prices. But seeing that your being so royally screwed at that price, all i will say, and even then i shouldnt really, is that your paying about 5x too much for it!!!
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 21:50
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adex, and letro would work just as well, obviously at the correct dose.
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 22:43
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letro is a funny one imo daz very hard to find the right dose ime, i either have joint pain or gyno comes and gets me, aromasin next and if i dont like that ill go back to adex but 0.5md ed rather than eod
started at 68kg PB,s bench: 170kg 3 reps cg 155kg single deadlift: 5 reps 245kg 1RM 260kg @knee height squat: 200 kg 2 reps clean and press 100kg 2 rep 110 1RM weight:108kg bf 14%~
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 22:47
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leerc letro is a funny one imo daz very hard to find the right dose ime, i either have joint pain or gyno comes and gets me, aromasin next and if i dont like that ill go back to adex but 0.5md ed rather than eod yeah letro can be a bit too dry for some, thought personally i dont suffer like that from it, out of the three i think aromasin is the best for general on cycle use mate, though it does cost a bit more interested to know what dosing schedules you tried with the letro when you saw gyno reappear?
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 23:28
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yeah it is a bit more but with ugl its still not expensive,pharma on the other hand will be i was taking 1/3 of a tab so just over 0.8mg e3d when it returned upped it to 1.25 and the joint pain came. im now using 1/4 tab .625mg eod but its early days on this dose so we shall see lol
started at 68kg PB,s bench: 170kg 3 reps cg 155kg single deadlift: 5 reps 245kg 1RM 260kg @knee height squat: 200 kg 2 reps clean and press 100kg 2 rep 110 1RM weight:108kg bf 14%~
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 23:29
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JoshLarge could try, mast 600mg weeks 1-10 test 300mg weeks weeks 1-10 winny weeks 6-12 Masteron and winny for bulking? I would run a primo only cycle. Mind you based on the price you mentioned you will probably need to remortgage your house to buy it!
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
10 October 2009 23:34
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im using mast in my next bulk 1-20 600 eq 1-10 400 tren 10-20 400 mast 22-26 30mg halo ed its not going to be a great mass builder but it has other properties that are a nice addition to the cycle imo but i wouldnt use mast as the base for a cycle tho
started at 68kg PB,s bench: 170kg 3 reps cg 155kg single deadlift: 5 reps 245kg 1RM 260kg @knee height squat: 200 kg 2 reps clean and press 100kg 2 rep 110 1RM weight:108kg bf 14%~
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
11 October 2009 08:43
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Im coming to the end of a sust and deca lean bulk, always got fat on prev cycles but diet and cardio nailed this time round, which im sure is 90% of the reason why it has worked so well I used 500 mg pw sust 400 mg pw deca 1g every 3rd day adex - which i will defo be using again. As its your second cycle i would just go with test and adex, dont add to many compunds too earyl as you need to see how your body reacts with each med, theres pleanty of time in the future to add deca, tren etc. Phill
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Re:Advice on a lean bulk cycle
22 October 2009 23:51
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right guys i've managed to aquire 1000 10mg anavar tabs. Was wondering what else i could take with this ?
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