And now it happens...

Gyno.
Sore as fcuk nipples, puffy .ect
 
Got Nolva ready, but never had this problem before. First time for everything eh?
Ive popped 20mg so far. And Im to believe this continues daily until the symptons vanish, then I continue with 10mg through my cycle and into PCT.
 
For PCT, do I continue with 10mg Nolva, and have a normal Clomid dosage?
 

How long till the end of your cycle liebow???

About 5 weeks

PCT is usually week-1,60mg/week-2,40mg/week3-4,20mg,(clomid ain't the best for gyno reversal but will help with test levels and reduce estrogenic activity),if you've only just started feeling the soreness/itchy you should be ok with the 20mg till it go's,your Pct doses as above will defo shift it liebow,just don't panic as it's totally reversible,moreso at a early stage,as with most stuff just play with the dosage liebow.

Tbh I'd be more inclined to run a low dose of aromisen or arimidex.

I get bad acne on nolva plus getting the eastrogen under control helps keep me from turning into a spot factory!

Minger

Don't know what you are using but I wouldn't piss about mate and I would use an AI right away
 
People may say it's overkill or whatever but once you have gyno it's very hard to get rid of it. plus meds don't always work for it
 
If it's early you should be ok but agree with Minger get that sh!t under control and fast.

Good advice but can't see how you didn't see it coming. If that is you in your avi and it wasn't taken since this course started, then I would have been very much expecting a flare up as you have existing gyno already by the looks of things

Thanks chaps.
 
So, Ive popped 20mg last night, and doing 20mg until symptons go, then Im dropping to 10mg for the rest of my cycle. Got 7 weeks til my PCT begins.
 
My question is, when it comes to PCT, shall I carry on Nolva at 10mg for the 3-4 weeks of PCT, and run the Clomid alongside it aswell? Or do I bump the Nolva back up to 60/40/20?

SJL


Good advice but can't see how you didn't see it coming. If that is you in your avi and it wasn't taken since this course started, then I would have been very much expecting a flare up as you have existing gyno already by the looks of things

Its me in my avi a LONG time ago, and you'll find that that is fat around my chest, not gyno.
Many heavy cycles have passed since that photo was taken.... no gyno.

A.I. Is a good shout liebow if you can get hold of them soon,but nolva will sort/or stop it getting worse at 20mg for now,you will have to bump the nolva up for pct(numbers stated in previous post) and run the clomid along similar values,but it is dependent on the person And type of cycle,dosages.
You know your gyno prone now so,so defo get A.I.as soon as possible and defo run A.I?next cycle to be on safe side?,but the gyno needs sorting first,before considering another cycle.

Nigalwayne


A.I. Is a good shout liebow if you can get hold of them soon,but nolva will sort/or stop it getting worse at 20mg for now,you will have to bump the nolva up for pct(numbers stated in previous post) and run the clomid along similar values,but it is dependent on the person And type of cycle,dosages.
You know your gyno prone now so,so defo get A.I.as soon as possible and defo run A.I?next cycle to be on safe side?,but the gyno needs sorting first,before considering another cycle.

Thank you, the answer to my question.
So if we look at my plan from the 5th pin, it should be like this:
 
Week 5-10: Test Cyp 500mg 
Week 9-12: Winstrol 40mg
Week 5-12: Nolva (20mg then 10mg when symptons go)
PCT Day 1: Nolva 60mg + Clomid 150mg
PCT Day 2-11: Nolva 40mg + Clomid 50mg
PCT Day 12-21: Nolva 20mg + Clomid 50mg
 
Ive got some ATD, thats an AI... ?

Looks sound liebow,couldn't comment on ATD fella,I only use/advocate A-DEX as I don't get many sides'winstrol will help you to some extent also in controlling the estrogen,maybe consider starting using that now fella.
Not to sound like I'm having a go liebow ,but it do's look like the start of gyno in your avi,you'll reverse it no problem over the coming weeks,but plan your cycles accordingly in future.
P.s.Week 5-12 (20mg then 10mg when symptoms go)as said earlier 20mg may not shift it liebow so it's if symptoms go,everyone id different in terms of dosing/amounts it just finding the right amount for you,but PCT protocol will shift it definitely.

Nigalwayne


Looks sound liebow,couldn't comment on ATD fella,I only use/advocate A-DEX as I don't get many sides'winstrol will help you to some extent also in controlling the estrogen,maybe consider starting using that now fella.
Not to sound like I'm having a go liebow ,but it do's look like the start of gyno in your avi,you'll reverse it no problem over the coming weeks,but plan your cycles accordingly in future.

Ok, was just worried about the PCT thing. Thanks for your help fella!
Its amazing how many people think its the start of gyno... considering I hadnt even used roids for a very long time when that was taken. Its fat behind the nipples, its not a gland thing. But either way, we now know that Im gyno prone.
But yes, Im keeping more Nolva to hand from now on ;-) cheers

Pretty low doses for gyno mate, maybe the winny causing it????
 
Id hit Nolva at 40mg p/d till the symptoms go, then carry on at 20mg p/d then maybe 20mg eod, this is what I done with Oxy gyno and it worked a treat.

brutali


Pretty low doses for gyno mate, maybe the winny causing it????

Id hit Nolva at 40mg p/d till the symptoms go, then carry on at 20mg p/d then maybe 20mg eod, this is what I done with Oxy gyno and it worked a treat.

 
Im not on Winny yet bud, and as far as I know, you cant get gyno from Winny?
Im starting Winny a week before my Test Cyp finishes, and bridging it into PCT. 4 weeks of Winny to come.

Liebow

brutali


Pretty low doses for gyno mate, maybe the winny causing it????

Id hit Nolva at 40mg p/d till the symptoms go, then carry on at 20mg p/d then maybe 20mg eod, this is what I done with Oxy gyno and it worked a treat.

Im not on Winny yet bud, and as far as I know, you cant get gyno from Winny?
Im starting Winny a week before my Test Cyp finishes, and bridging it into PCT. 4 weeks of Winny to come.

 
Very unlikely because winny doesn't aromatises. Bit like masteron , anavar , winstrol , anadrol , eq (very low), deca , tren , tbol , halo can't think of anything else

brutali,you must be the exception to the rule fella,I was also sure winstrol do's not convert???same family as anavar/proviron.

^ not true mate. Tren can and will cause gyno and so will deca. The treatment for which being completely differen too.

Any supression of own test with exogonous test, i.e any of the meds you list, have the potential to cause gyno during rebound too

I can guarantee 110% Winny causes gyno, I have a big nasty lump in my left side due to a damn Winny only cycle :( 

SJL


^ not true mate. Tren can and will cause gyno and so will deca. The treatment for which being completely differen too.

Any supression of own test with exogonous test, i.e any of the meds you list, have the potential to cause gyno during rebound too

 
I said it doesn't aromatises! It is chemically impossible for tren to aromatize...