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I was thinking of getting anavar, cant get it anywhere. My Dr said I could get Andro Gel. IS this somethting that would give me the same effect?
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Re:Andro Gel
28 January 2012 00:58
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All I know is you would need a serious amount of it to have a near affect of any anabolic. It WILL help. But nothing like what these boys use. I have been perscriped TRT on a low dose, let me know how you get on with it. PM me & Ill tell you what I know....
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Re:Andro Gel
28 January 2012 01:32
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what were the benefits of the lower dose? im not looking to get big just lean - and strong. Im in good shape already
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Re:Andro Gel
28 January 2012 01:40
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Hard to be exact, because of other personal factors. But strength and muscle increase, but not on any level of proper gear. So, yes, it helps. But no comparason to a cycle of the strong stuff....
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Re:Andro Gel
28 January 2012 01:41
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How does it compare to doing anavar? i cant find anavar anywhere oscars Hard to be exact, because of other personal factors. But strength and muscle increase, but not on any level of proper gear. So, yes, it helps. But no comparason to a cycle of the strong stuff....
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Re:Andro Gel
28 January 2012 01:46
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Dont know anything about anavar mate - cant comment. All I know is test gel is benefitial in lots of ways. But if you want the real deal you need IM test really. Depends on what you want. Give it a try for a while & see what you think. Up the dosage if possible!
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Re:Andro Gel
28 January 2012 06:23
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Gel is crap for bodybuilding Var is about but I would just go with a cheap test cycle If you are new to roids
"If you think that you will die from using roids, chances are you're more likely gonna die of being retarded"
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Re:Andro Gel
28 January 2012 06:36
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oscars, it helps you because you are deficient in natural testosterone, that is why it's being prescribed to you. The gel will bring you onto a level playing field with other 'normal' men. The gel that you are prescribed doesn't give you more test than other men particularly, just brings you up to the same. You feel the benefit because you have no doubt struggled with the symptoms of low testosterone ie sh1t sex drive, little general drive, difficulty adding muscle, tendancy to add fat easily etc etc Men with normal levels of testosterone won't benefit from androgel since the gel will just replace their normal testosterone. It won't be "in addition to", since the body will recognise the increase in test (from the gel) and subsequently slow/cease production of natural testosterone from the testes.
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Re:Andro Gel
28 January 2012 06:40
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NY, androgel will only be of benefit if you are deficient in testosterone. As above, it will put you on a par with other non-steroid using men. If you want steroid like results, then you will need to use much more testosterone than what could ever be absorbed from the gel - aside from the fact that if you did try to use enough, you would probably need to rob a bank.
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Re:Andro Gel
28 January 2012 11:57
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Good info, thanks, but if a bloke had normal T levels, and used gel, the extra T would be of some benefit I would have thought by raising it further??? How would the gel perscribed work when you do a cycle of sus250? Is it a total waste of time as the sus250 would take T levels so high anyway? The gel treatment is supposed to be for life - each and every day. Any thoughts on using the gel with PCT?
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Re:Andro Gel
28 January 2012 12:49
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oscars Good info, thanks, but if a bloke had normal T levels, and used gel, the extra T would be of some benefit I would have thought by raising it further??? No, the HPTA would reign in natural production without question. The body (through the HPTA) is constantly monitoring hormonal profile and adjusting production (up or down) accordingly. How would the gel perscribed work when you do a cycle of sus250? Is it a total waste of time as the sus250 would take T levels so high anyway? No, not a total waste of time since both sources of test are exogenous (from outside the body). So you will get test from the sustanon, plus a little more from the gel. A 50mg sachet will be absorbed at around 10%, so 5mg of test delivered. 7 * 5mg would be an extra 35mg or so per week on top of any sustanon dose. Any thoughts on using the gel with PCT? TRT men do not require PCT. PCT is an attempt to recover natural production of testosterone. People on trt have seriously impaired natural production so it's pointless attempting to 'recover' it - aside from the fact that recovery would not occur since the body would recognise that it still has adequate circulatory levels of test (from the gel).

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Re:Andro Gel
28 January 2012 13:02
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Party boy, you are good mate. I have been perscribed TRT gel due to low T. (8.0) on my last test. I havnt started using it yet because I want to do a cycle of sus250. Not only for the gains, but to see how it will effect me. The last year has not been good. My little fella wont work, no motivation etc. You said TRT men dont do PCT because low levels are not worth recovering, (along those lines) So whats your thoughts for my cycle, PCT and the gel that im supposed to use every day?
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Re:Andro Gel
28 January 2012 13:05
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Sust is fine for a cycle. No pct required. You can continue with the gel, or hold off until you finish the cycle
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Re:Andro Gel
28 January 2012 13:14
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So because my T levels are low anyway, PCT would'nt benefit me? What if the Sus250 abolished the little natural production I did have?
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Re:Andro Gel
28 January 2012 13:27
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It doesn't matter if it does, since the your prescribed androgel trt is suitable to fully replace your natural testosterone
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Re:Andro Gel
28 January 2012 13:34
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Great then, that saves me a quid or two
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Re:Andro Gel
29 January 2012 04:11
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I was told my level is on the lower range. If I work out and supplement right- and raise my test levels 25%, won't I get bigger and cut???
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Re:Andro Gel
29 January 2012 10:33
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newyorkpump I was told my level is on the lower range. If I work out and supplement right- and raise my test levels 25%, won't I get bigger and cut??? That's like asking "If I go shopping in the sales today, will I come back with a bargain" Who knows lol! We know nothing of your planned workout routines/splits, no idea how committed you are, no clue as to your dietary habits etc etc etc The bottom line is the gel will put you are a par with Mr Average Joe Bloggs walking down the street. Is Mr Average Joe Bloggs big and cut? Do you now see my point?
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