Anti estrogen throughout a sd matrix cycle. yay or nay?

Hey guys,
 
I have a mate who is doing a sd matrix cycle. He is running formadrol alongside the sd matrix. Just wondering if thats ok? I mean i always thought that a test booster/ anti estrogen should be used for pct not during a cycle.
 
Also he has complained about getting pins and needles in his hands. I asked him if he is taking some sort of pre workout/ nitric oxide product which may cause these sensations. But he is nt. Any ideas?
 
He is running sd matrix, formadrol and using a energy drink called ps3 from tesco :p
 
Thanks in advance for your replies.

Your right, he should save that for giving him a boost in pct with his serm.

Yep, i thought so.
 
Anyone else have a opinion? Maybe some reasoning too?
 
I also know a few people that take esto supress alongside sd matrix and so i am wondering if its ok or not. I always thought esto supress should be taken after the sd matrix cycle :)

maximus pullo

I also know a few people that take esto supress alongside sd matrix and so i am wondering if its ok or not. I always thought esto supress should be taken after the sd matrix cycle :)

 
don't think anyone can really answer that as no one really knows what esto supress really is

People will know what esto supress is.

the manufacturer may know but as they mislabel the bottles

maximus pullo


People will know what esto supress is.

based on rumour alone
 
the PR behind it is shocking 'a legal serm'... which no one has heard of and no research to support it
 
 

m118

maximus pullo


People will know what esto supress is.

based on rumour alone

the PR behind it is shocking 'a legal serm'... which no one has heard of and no research to support it

Esto supress is made by the same people that made tren bomb and sd matrix.
 
Guys my general question is... Can you run a anti estrogen alongside a ph cycle? I always thought it should be saved for pct.
 
Anyone?

You could but only really worthwhile on a wet ph cycle as dry based tend not to aromatize and you will most likely just end up with joints dryer than a nun's crack.

I think if you were running say Test for a 12 week cycle,then estrogen may become an issue,otc AI in that case prob useless anyway.
but for a short 4/6 week cycle,i would say save it for pct.keep nolva on hand if you get sore nips,and don't let paranoia get the better of you.

i seriously dont understand why sd matrix is still sooo popular. over here (northern ireland) people go mad for it, where realistically its just m1t, and dragon has an m1t clone at much better value and better controllable dosages. sd matrix is very harsh on the body, and there recommended 20mg dose per day is defintly not for beginners

IS SD matrix even M1T??? i though it was like an M1t clone with the molecules slightly changed.
 People that i no that have used it ( even though i told them not to)
regretted it , felt shiit on, got horrid gyno, bloated like a baloon.
Im with you though, id never use SD MATRIX....Or Esto suppress and i try alot of compounds ha!!!!
 
OP if i were you id just head over to dragons site and spend the 25 quid or whatever it is on M1T or Superdrol ....and no exactly what your getting, and no that gains are gna be awsome.
 
Maz
 

it seems to be that SD matrix is the "lucky dip" of prohormones, no one can be exactly sure what your gona get! the gym im at sells tons of the stuff, some people feel like sh*T and have such bad lethargy they cant train, whereas others feel great and make awesome gains..... but one thing can be sure...sd matrix is extremely toxic to the body!

Yeah the amount of variation of results leads me to beleive its like 5mg SD and 5mg M1T or something :/
 
All I know is that I wont be touching it anytime soon.

Just like Esto-Supress... no one actually knows whats in SD Matrix.... sounds like some voodoo concoction thrown together for the vulnerable and easily led....

Vibora


Yeah the amount of variation of results leads me to beleive its like 5mg SD and 5mg M1T or something :/

All I know is that I wont be touching it anytime soon.

my guess would be that because each cap is 10mg, the manufacturer could have 5mg of superdrol and 5mg of M1T in each cap..... but it could also be 5mg superdrol and 5mg phera. resulting in a daily dose of 10mg superdrol and 10mg methyl-1-test.
 
the superdrol part would contribute to painful shin and back pumps. also to quick gains in strength.
wheras the M1t would play a big part in the lethargy as its been proven to cripple natural testosterone production in a matter of days.
 
what must be remembered is that supedrol and phera where intially produced to replace M1T as in the USA m1t got banned very quickly. so chances are good ol' trusty worthy pharma labs is throwin a bit of watever they have got lying about into those pills.
 
esto suppress by them was tested in a lab, and it was shown to be basically nolvadex with a few tweaked molecules and increased inpuritys.

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would u say genox tamoxifen is a good serm?

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m118

maximus pullo


People will know what esto supress is.

based on rumour alone

the PR behind it is shocking 'a legal serm'... which no one has heard of and no research to support it

maximus pullo


would u say genox tamoxifen is a good serm?

thx mate. would u say genox tamoxifen is a good serm?