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Anybody work for the UK Border Agency / UK immigration?

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2012/09/13 12:01:41 (permalink)

Anybody work for the UK Border Agency / UK immigration?

Howdy all, as per the title really.
 
I'm looking for a little bit of advice completing my wife's British citizenship application form.
 
Any advice appreciated.

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    IWantedDanB
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    Re:Anybody work for the UK Border Agency / UK immigration? 2012/09/13 15:09:26 (permalink)
    I don't work for them, but I have completed the same forms, and also know people that have done the same, so possibly can at least advise as to how we filled in the form, if the same situation applies?
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    Re:Anybody work for the UK Border Agency / UK immigration? 2012/09/13 15:30:08 (permalink)
    Thanks, mate.
    Had nothing but trouble with the IND/UKBA over the years. They even managed to allow my wife's passport to be forged while it was in their possession a few years back!
    Anyway, after 10 years living in the UK (7 as the wife of yours-truly) the missus has decided to apply for citizenship. The form is pretty straight-forward TBH, but the "Good character section" is kind of ambiguous. It implies she has to be: a) "Employed"; b) "self-employed", or; c) "a director" to qualify. However, at the moment she is none, being basically a housewife. There no option for "unemployed" or "student" or anything else for that matter. I've called them and they were useless, advising to tick the box "most appropriate"! Don't want t pay non-refundable £900 fee only to have her claim rejected on her not being currently employed/self-employed.    

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    Re:Anybody work for the UK Border Agency / UK immigration? 2012/09/13 15:40:10 (permalink)
    Can't help with that particular form but I've had dealings with the UKBA and would agree that they are biggest bunch of useless, beurocratic, malevolant t**ts i've ever come across.

    You did gain far too much fat though,I mean,you're not muscular at all,you're just a fat mess.
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    Re:Anybody work for the UK Border Agency / UK immigration? 2012/09/13 15:44:19 (permalink)
    don't know if its any use but pretty much the same question is being asked here
     
    http://uk.answers.yahoo.c...=20091008172931AAPeKK0
     
    and here
     
    http://www.immigrationboa...3548330ac7fadccde35844
    post edited by lost - 2012/09/13 15:45:22

     
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    Re:Anybody work for the UK Border Agency / UK immigration? 2012/09/13 16:00:16 (permalink)
    lost

    don't know if its any use but pretty much the same question is being asked here

    http://uk.answers.yahoo.c...=20091008172931AAPeKK0

    and here

    http://www.immigrationboa...3548330ac7fadccde35844

    Thanks, mate. Probably concerns a lot of people. Thing is, the guidance implies one of the boxes has to be ticked, yet none of the three options applies. Fcuksake! 

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    Re:Anybody work for the UK Border Agency / UK immigration? 2012/09/13 16:52:12 (permalink)
    Poor/Conflicting information and wrong advice is their 'MO'.

    You did gain far too much fat though,I mean,you're not muscular at all,you're just a fat mess.
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    Re:Anybody work for the UK Border Agency / UK immigration? 2012/09/13 20:46:38 (permalink)
    I didn't think britain had any borders,if she is unsuccesful she could always run over a toddler and say it would violate her human rights if deported it seems to work for everyone else.
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    Re:Anybody work for the UK Border Agency / UK immigration? 2012/09/13 21:50:54 (permalink)
    Click employed, and pay her a weekly minimum wage for being a housewife.  
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    Re:Anybody work for the UK Border Agency / UK immigration? 2012/09/13 22:49:44 (permalink)
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    Click employed, and pay her a weekly minimum wage for being a housewife.  

    They ask for NI number, mate, so that they can check with HMRC that the person is paying tax. Incidentally, I used to work for HMRC, so I know they do check some applications too.

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    Re:Anybody work for the UK Border Agency / UK immigration? 2012/09/13 22:53:23 (permalink)
    rob211080

    I didn't think britain had any borders,if she is unsuccesful she could always run over a toddler and say it would violate her human rights if deported it seems to work for everyone else.

    I'm convinced they selectively chose certain nationalities. My wife is Brazilian and she's had nothing but hassle from UKBA over the years. Whereas an Angolan person she knows got a passport practically given to her. TBH, every dealing we've had with the IND/UKBA for the past 9 yrs has been an utter nightmare. Had to get our MP to sort last mess out. (Her Brazilian passport was forged and used by an illegal immigrant from Africa at Dover whilst it was in THEIR possession!!)

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    Re:Anybody work for the UK Border Agency / UK immigration? 2012/09/14 08:33:42 (permalink)
    Sorry, haven't been online since you posted.

    I think you have your answer already, but I would put housewife in the occupation box, and leave the tick boxes blank.
     
    My Mrs works, so I did not have this issue. However from when I read the guidance notes, from what I understand they are only looking to see that you are of good character, and have paid any income tax that is due. Being a housewife doesn't make you a bad character, the only thing I would be prepared to do is get a statement of account from HMRC, to show that your wife does not have any outstanding tax to pay, but this probably won't be necessary.
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    Re:Anybody work for the UK Border Agency / UK immigration? 2012/09/14 10:40:56 (permalink)
    She could register with HMRC as self-employed (as a sole trader), pay her self-employed NI (about £3/week IIRC) and then tick self employed.
     
    Make up some little 'business' she is running from home, and then at the end of the tax year file a tax return showing an income of almost nothing.... but at least she's technically 'self-employed'.
     
    Did somethinng similar with my first wife, who was on an American passport. Is it still Lunar House in Croydon that deals with it all? If so they're the biggest shower of d1cks Ive ever had the misfortune to have to deal with.
     
    The daily Mail readers who think that britain has no borders and any tom. dick or harry can come here and claim benefits CLEARLY have never had to actually deal with British Immigration.... Whatever impression some of the press likes too give, and whatever exceptional stories they like to publicise, the fact is that getting the right to reside in the Uk, let alone citizenship, is a red-tape nightmare of Kafka-esque proportions!


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    Re:Anybody work for the UK Border Agency / UK immigration? 2012/09/14 11:00:56 (permalink)
    tac

    She could register with HMRC as self-employed (as a sole trader), pay her self-employed NI (about £3/week IIRC) and then tick self employed.

    Make up some little 'business' she is running from home, and then at the end of the tax year file a tax return showing an income of almost nothing.... but at least she's technically 'self-employed'.

    Did somethinng similar with my first wife, who was on an American passport. Is it still Lunar House in Croydon that deals with it all? If so they're the biggest shower of d1cks Ive ever had the misfortune to have to deal with.

    The daily Mail readers who think that britain has no borders and any tom. dick or harry can come here and claim benefits CLEARLY have never had to actually deal with British Immigration.... Whatever impression some of the press likes too give, and whatever exceptional stories they like to publicise, the fact is that getting the right to reside in the Uk, let alone citizenship, is a red-tape nightmare of Kafka-esque proportions!

    One step ahead, tac! We registered as self-employed about 3 months ago, anticipating her unemployed status might cause a problem. However, she has not filed a tax return yet, and won't until HMRC issues a Return after April 6 next year. The guidance advises that anybody claiming 'self-employed' status has to provide a copy of their most recent statement of account. HMRC won't send one out until she's filed her first Return, which will mean waiting until pretty much this time next year!
    Lunar House is a nightmare. I have misfortunately spent several days there over the past decade.

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    Re:Anybody work for the UK Border Agency / UK immigration? 2012/09/14 13:02:07 (permalink)
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    Mail readers who think that britain has no borders and any tom. dick or harry can come here and claim benefits CLEARLY have never had to actually deal with British Immigration.... Whatever impression some of the press likes too give, and whatever exceptional stories they like to publicise, the fact is that getting the right to reside in the Uk, let alone citizenship, is a red-tape nightmare of Kafka-esque proportions!

     
    Clearly we dont have any borders;
    http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/345462/Migrant-family-of-nine-target-Britain-and-get-house-and-benefits-in-3-weeks-
    "Our membership of the European Union means that we are essentially inviting every parasite in the EU to come and take advantage of our housing and benefits system.
    We are the biggest mugs in the world to allow this to happen.
    we have flung our doors open to people who have never paid a penny in taxation to the UK and probably never will"
     
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