Article: Casein Hydrolysate – The Cream of Post Workout Protein?

James

Mobster



If 'people' could do that we'd both be out of a job. So they pay for advice and guidance. In this case, as stated, there doesn't seem to be enough proof. Even in the case of those using it it seems more hopeful than anything.

No, my job is to teach and advise - I educate my clients and give my opinion, but encourage them to make up their own minds.  There isn't enough proof, but my article is to educate and I make the very valid point that there's more evidence and a stronger theory for many other supplements which people anecdotally rave about - even some sold by the more reputable supplement companies.

The power of one anecdote is far stronger than the power of epidemiology!

Mobster

James

Mobster



If 'people' could do that we'd both be out of a job. So they pay for advice and guidance. In this case, as stated, there doesn't seem to be enough proof. Even in the case of those using it it seems more hopeful than anything.

No, my job is to teach and advise - I educate my clients and give my opinion, but encourage them to make up their own minds.  There isn't enough proof, but my article is to educate and I make the very valid point that there's more evidence and a stronger theory for many other supplements which people anecdotally rave about - even some sold by the more reputable supplement companies.

The power of one anecdote is far stronger than the power of epidemiology!

I'm sure this is true and I do the same. The info provided is not something which has just been created but already exists and is there for them... yet there they are asking for, a la Arnold 'the advices'. And paying for it.

An example of info not needed: Robbie Durand and those that actually carried out the study wasted there time 'Casein Hydrosylates Increase Protein Synthesis More Than Casein' You mean to tell me that a more available easier to digest form of Casein needed to be tested (again) so we can read what we already had an idea of?? There is a line or three which relate to your article which may be of interest 'Another interesting finding was that protein breakdown rates tended to be further lowered after ingestion of protein hydrosylate, compared to casein protein, which may be due to the greater insulin release that was observed after protein hydrosylate ingestion. Elevated insulin concentrations have been shown to inhibit protein breakdown.^3,4,5 In contrast, it has been suggested that increases in circulating insulin concentrations are instrumental in stimulating skeletal muscle blood flow— thereby augmenting amino acid delivery to the muscle.^6,7 Consequently, both the increase in plasma amino acid availability and the greater plasma insulin response after hydrolyzed casein— compared to casein ingestion (during the initial 3-hour post-feeding period)— might enhance postprandial muscle protein anabolism. This result indicates that the intake of a casein hydrosylate, as opposed to casein, further stimulates the anabolic response to food intake mainly by inhibiting whole-body protein breakdown.'

The article is referenced so more can be read as required.

Drew Price


..... or does it?

Google Demling and DeSante, 2000 I think.

There's simply not enough research for our needs when comparing. As I keep saying around these parts one or two studies show very little.