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Re:Aspartame and other artificial sweeteners?
14 December 2008 19:23
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Jingpuerr did a really good post regarding aspartame a while back, he really knows his stuff.
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Re:Aspartame and other artificial sweeteners?
14 December 2008 19:31
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You could filter everything and still be suspicious. I'm still suspicious. My preference is real sugar. Real coke, not diet. Natural sweeteners not artificial. No GM. I like to choose when and where to take my artificial this n thats, and I prefer not to see to many of them in my food.
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Re:Aspartame and other artificial sweeteners?
14 December 2008 19:52
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nice list nige - would you say the more maths involved the more likely the evidence is to be accurate? No. More statistics aren't necessarily better than less. Isn't there a saying "There are lies, there are damned lies and there are statistics."? The bigger the sample size, the more significant the evidence. This shows up in the 95% Confidence Intervals. JKJ
i think almost everybody comes to their opinion first and then searches around for a bit of evidence to tack on afterwards. so even if a person cant back their opinion up, it still has some weight. Ze old cherry-picking. Even I've done that where there's conflicting evidence. I'm more critical of a study that doesn't support my viewpoint than of one that does. Human nature, eh?
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Re:Aspartame and other artificial sweeteners?
14 December 2008 20:00
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FatboyGinger
Jingpuerr did a really good post regarding aspartame a while back, he really knows his stuff. You mean THIS ONE? Yep, he certainly does!
1) DON'T PANIC! 2) Assumption is the mother of all cock-ups. 3) Where's the omega-3 fat?
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Re:Aspartame and other artificial sweeteners?
14 December 2008 20:11
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personally i choose to eat food and drink sweetened with sugar. two main reasons-
it tastes better
they contain calories
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Re:Aspartame and other artificial sweeteners?
14 December 2008 20:57
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Aspartame killed my cat...
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Re:Aspartame and other artificial sweeteners?
14 December 2008 20:59
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FatboyGinger
Jingpuerr did a really good post regarding aspartame a while back, he really knows his stuff. You mean THIS ONE? Yep, he certainly does!
Certainly did. Thanks alot Nige
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Re:Aspartame and other artificial sweeteners?
14 December 2008 21:03
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JKJ
nice list nige - would you say the more maths involved the more likely the evidence is to be accurate?
No. More statistics aren't necessarily better than less. Isn't there a saying "There are lies, there are damned lies and there are statistics."? The bigger the sample size, the more significant the evidence. This shows up in the 95% Confidence Intervals.
JKJ
i think almost everybody comes to their opinion first and then searches around for a bit of evidence to tack on afterwards. so even if a person cant back their opinion up, it still has some weight.
Ze old cherry-picking. Even I've done that where there's conflicting evidence. I'm more critical of a study that doesn't support my viewpoint than of one that does. Human nature, eh?
yeah, i didnt mean in terms of sheer volume of data, more like use of logic or analysis. because i think were are not very good at critical thinking - and the methods you had at the top of your list involve removing variables and having control groups and whatnot. i know what i mean anyway  (which is more than i often know).
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Re:Aspartame and other artificial sweeteners?
14 December 2008 23:08
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yeah but sugar (white or brown) is refined, its concentrated juice from sugar cane or sugar beet.
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