So 'no gear' should be clear then ? I've just got 60ml of Axio Primo and it looks pretty bloody clear to me !

I'm gonna sort out some pics later.

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So 'no gear' should be clear then ? I've just got 60ml of Axio Primo and it looks pretty bloody clear to me !

I'm gonna sort out some pics later.

Hmmmm, my Axio sus and deca is pretty clear... in fact it's the exact same colour

They are all un-opened but 1 deca vial is obviously short compared to the volume of the rest.
Does make you think the production isn't accurate.
Have not really looked at them much TBH. See what you lot think.

I'll post some pics... all the same colour white tops.

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pay too have it gc-ms :p

It's a case of finding somewhere that would be willing to do it.

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John - my stuff looks identical to yours. I notice at least one of your vials top is wonky too as are mine.More worrying for me is that the labels on mine have liquid stains on them as if oil or another liquid has spilt down the side.

I'm thinking of injecting some of mine tomorrow to see if I have any problems.I was debating starting now anyway and at the end of the day without lab testing what we have the only proof will be in the pudding

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So 'no gear' should be clear then ? I've just got 60ml of Axio Primo and it looks pretty bloody clear to me !

I'm gonna sort out some pics later.

nah its the tren that shouldnt be clear, not the primo, sust or whatever. my sust, primo, NPP and DECA were all clear. differing visc's, but clear, and as far as i know they were all fine - the initial flu symtoms, mad mind of its own penis and noticable muscle gain would imply they were anyway

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John - my stuff looks identical to yours. I notice at least one of your vials top is wonky too as are mine.More worrying for me is that the labels on mine have liquid stains on them as if oil or another liquid has spilt down the side.

I'm thinking of injecting some of mine tomorrow to see if I have any problems.I was debating starting now anyway and at the end of the day without lab testing what we have the only proof will be in the pudding

i had a vial of deca that was stained like that. label was ok but it did look like something had been on it at some point

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I have a contact at a local university :p

chemistry student, 3rd year ....

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pay too have it gc-ms :p

It's a case of finding somewhere that would be willing to do it.

tbh i would expect deca to have some colour to it.

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I have a contact at a local university :p

chemistry student, 3rd year ....

Are undergrads allowed free unsupervised use of gc/ms machines these days? Universities have got much more relaxed since my day in that case

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infact looking at some norma i have here and various other pics of deca i would say being that clear is not the norm

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i dont no, ive never been there ... i knew he was a chem student .. and just dropped it into a convo once jokingly ... and he said he would do it :)

Oh no... not looking good, 2nd row down the pics have been removed but you can still see the prob http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=axio+labs&ndsp=21&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&start=0&sa=N

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deca can be clearish and also a light pissy yellow colour too.many ug products vary in colour down to different powders and strengths.

i dunno what the fks in that tren mate.looks like i got fk all in mine and you got petrol in urs lol.i just think theres a few bad batchs going about due to powder issues ect.

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Oh no... not looking good, 2nd row down the pics have been removed but you can still see the prob http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=axio+labs&ndsp=21&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&start=0&sa=N

i think this post on that board sums it up

Dude

Why buy underground lab ****e thats made in suspect circumstances?...Hell man, these people make this in large amounts and dont really give a ****e about sterility!

If you are going to use, stick to the Human Grade stuff! Organon,et al!

Trenbolone Acetate : Make it yourself....an 11 year old can make it, and at least youll know its sterile and kosher!

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Oh no... not looking good, 2nd row down the pics have been removed but you can still see the prob http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=axio+labs&ndsp=21&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&start=0&sa=N

i think this post on that board sums it up

Dude

Why buy underground lab ****e thats made in suspect circumstances?...Hell man, these people make this in large amounts and dont really give a ****e about sterility!

If you are going to use, stick to the Human Grade stuff! Organon,et al!

Trenbolone Acetate : Make it yourself....an 11 year old can make it, and at least youll know its sterile and kosher!

Man this is your body! If you going to do something, take a decent approach!

JJ

Yeah sums up ignorance to me LOL. An 11 year old can make it sterile? I've never seen anyone homebrewing method that was sterile. Why? Because to filter it they filter into a sterile vial, and put another needle in the top of the vial to equalise the pressure. That needle is a guage that is much much bigger than 0.22um therefore by scientific definitions unless that is done in a sterile hood or sterile glove box etc, it is technically NOT sterile as bacteria can enter through that needle acting to equalise pressure.

The ONLY way you can make sterile gear is to make it in a sterile environment, eg. a laminar flow hood with HEPA filters etc. I very much doubt any homebrewer let alone any 11 year olds have access to such equipment! And thats not even to mention the lack of reliable powder sources from china atm!! So it is naive to say by that person that you take less of a risk making it yourself as you still take a risk of unsterile gear!

mcl

not sure if this will work but gonna put the pic up anyway (dunno how to do this lol)

made a bit of a pigs ear out of the page, sorry, but put this up to show you 3 vial of, from left to right, duraplex (NPP) decaplex and sustaplex. note the discoloured first vial of deca, as it should be prolly, but more importantly the difference in ml's in the vials. got me thinking after i saw johns post so hence pics


i aint reading anything into anything for the record but its interesting to see the differing amounts. i bit hap hazard (doent mean theres anything at all wrong with the gear ofcourse though)

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Tigernut - those look a good colour IMO however look at how variable the amount is within them! Difference of a ml or 2 between some of those vials!!

mcl