Bent Over Barbell Rows

Is it OK to use a  E-Z bar for this or should they only be done with an olympic straight bar?
 
Thanks

I use an EZ bar as its a lot nicer, don't see a downside?
 
lol - though had a laugh with a lad in the gym on Friday, he thought I was gonna start curling a 60kg EZ bar!!

The only problem I could see with it is the fact that they would put your wrists at a pretty awkward angle. But if you have to I see no real issue, except I can't really envisage a scenario where you would have access to an ez bar and not a barbell, unless you're in a really crap gym!

Hmm, opposite for me, puts them in a nice comfy position, straight bar is a lot less forgiving

Hmm, interesting! I haven't ever actually tried it but I just assumed it would be uncomfortable given the angle

No, its really nice - I don't like doing them overhand (which I would have to with a straight bar) as I've already caned my overhand grip with my deads at that stage of the session; and underhand it tweaks the tendons on my elbows. So I go underhand on an EZ

Ahhhh I see, I assumed you meant overhand. Yes underhand with an EZ bar would definitely be comfortable, a lot more so than underhand with a straight bar!

lol, yeah, overhand EZ would be fecking well tricky/uncomfortable!

Bent forward rows for me is one of my strongest exercises,and I would say yes always use an Olympic bar and a wide grip to get the best from the exercise.
I cannot envisage a scenario when using a ez-bar to row 120kg for reps would actually out weigh benefits of a Olympic bar,barring personal choice Tony,60kg is pretty lame for this type of power exercise???and I would prefer to tell the poster to do one arm d'bell rows rather than use the ez bar.

Yeah, 60kg is pretty lame (thanks!) I guess - will be 70kg on Friday. I'm not a particularly strong guy, not my goal

You know what I mean 'just in relation to it being a power exercise' although exercise selection is really important when choosing a routine it prob do's you no favors doing deadlifts first.
I have taught free weights to a number of people having attained my B.A.W.L.A teaching award and can say from a teaching point of view,wether using underhand grip or overhand the use of a ez bar would not be considered???Although it is obviously your personal choice.

I do deads first as they are the biggest lift on back day, so get them done and move on! Not sure I understand your 2nd paragraph - is that a statement or question?
 
Agree, personal choice is important - I use BOR's near the end of my back session, don't extend fully (trying to reduce bicep load), but do get a nicely pumped back from them, so all good in my book
 
Thinking about it, what would you see as a less lame weight to be moving? My deads top out at 140 x 10, should I be hitting 50%, 60%, or what, during BOR's?

Reading an earlier post, not done 1-arm-rows in years... might bring them back!

All i was saying Tony in 2nd paragraph was that I'm qualified to teach free weights,and would not recommend the use of a ez bar for this exercise,nor was I taught to and the instructor we had coaches the British litters.
Of course our choice of training regime will dictate what our strongest exercises are and how much energy/strength is left other for preceding movements,personally Tony I wouldn't do deadlifts and b'fwd'rows on the same day,I train DC style now and like to do a back thickness exercise followed by a back width exercise,
I cannot comment BORs as I have no knowledge of this,so out of interest do you have a link or time for a brief written explanation???.
I would do deadlifts-wide grip Pulldowns or b'fwd'rows -close grip Pulldowns to chest???

Fair does.
 
BOR - Bent Over Row - not sure if a proper acronym or not, lol!
 
[sorry for thread hijack!]
 
With regard to tiring out, this was my back routine on Friday, in order:
 
Barbell Deadlift             140kg x 10, 140kg x 8, 130kg x 8
Chin-Up                         28
Cable Seated Row        52.5kg x 10, 52.5kg x 10, 52.5kg x 10
Reverse peck dec          60kg x 10, 60kg x 10, 60kg x 10
Seated pull down          100kg x 10, 100kg x 10, 80kg x 10
Barbell Bent Over Row   60kg x 10, 60kg x 10, 60kg x 10
Dumbbell Bicep Curl       17.5kg x 10, 17.5kg x 10, 15kg x 10
Dumbbell Bench Press    22.5kg x 32
 
- so I try to mix bicep contraction about a bit in there, so I don't tire out too badly 1 exercise to the next. Works ok, some weeks 1 goes up, another down, then reverses. I shouldn't be able to hit 3 sets of 10 in any exercise, so next week that weight ought to go up on the ones I did.

60kg is certainly not lame especially if using underhand grip, this will significantly reduce the weight you can use. I don't really know what you mean when you call BOR a "power exercise"? Given you say you are qualified to teach weighlifting then I presume you would be minded to do BOR explosively, most likely Pendlay style. From a hypertrophy point of view, slow and controlled reps while focusing on squeezing your shoulder blades together at the top will provide a greater stimulus. This will of course necessitate using a lot less weight. No idea why you're saying you shouldn't Deadlift and row on the same day though.

That's a lot of work Tony,no wonder B'fwd'rows are at 60kg considering it's your 6th back exercise of the day???most importantly are you gaining consistently on this routine???
I gain consistently on half that amount of exercises,judging by your avi you do look in good nick Tony,there a good balanced physique going on there,so keep it up man.

CK - yeah, that's about how I do them. Slow enough to get a good squeeze, but fast enough to make sure the weight gets to where it needs to.
 
Nigal - yeah, seem to be growing ok - I only started doing a split at the back end of last year, always trained full body before that. However, I never had any DOMS, zip, nada, so figured try doing a split to see if I caused a bit more damage, and then hopefully more growth. So now I do get a bit of soreness, but still nothing to write home about.
 
Thanks, fingers crossed it will be good enough for me to pick up some silverware

CK,you'll find I said that I 'wouldn't ' not 'shouldn't do dead lifts same day as b'fwd'rows.So perhaps read a bit more carefully,before reacting and posting eh.
Your comments regarding slow and controlled movements whilst squeezing the shoulder blades together,I think it's basic knowledge that exercises should be done in a controlled manner and that we should feel the muscle groups worked during the the movement,this do's not change simply because of the weight on the bar ie,60kg or 120kg.are you presuming that people who lift heavy,cheat every rep and don't rep in a controlled manner?

Tony you will do yourself proud man???