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Best time to inject HGH?? 23 April 2011 17:53 (permalink)
Hi, Looking at advice...
Im about to start a course of HGH, ive read and heard different info on when you inject, some have told me take it first thing when i wake up, some say before bed and others are telling me to split it between he two.
I am wondering what are the advantages if any if i was to follow this info.
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    Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 24 April 2011 00:46 (permalink)
    I use it when cutting for shows and do before bed shots of around 4-5ius to aid lower fat levels.
    And if funds was there i would do 8ius post work.
     
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      Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 29 April 2011 12:22 (permalink)
      Thanks,
      Would there be a certain amount of time before training i.e. 1 hour???
       
       
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        Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 07 May 2011 12:55 (permalink)
        so forddee if using hgh for fat loss pre comp its better to do before bed?does it burn more fat if shot at that time?
         
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          Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 07 May 2011 14:24 (permalink)
          Interesting.  I was going to look at gh un jue/july and planned 8iu 3x per week, but I might do 4iu pst workout (3 weights sessions a week) and 4iu before bed on the onther days.
           
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            Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 08 May 2011 05:31 (permalink)
            I do mine just as i go to bed.
             
             
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              Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 08 May 2011 14:53 (permalink)
              I am into my 5th month of Humatrope at 2iu per day/every day.
              I tried it for 2 months at 6am, when waking and then train at 6.30am. Then I tried it for 2 months before bed. I can honestly say that I did not notice any difference between a.m. and p.m. shots.  I have now gone back to a.m. shots, as I prefer this as a routine just before my workout.
              Personally, I cannot feel the benefit of one over the other.
               
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                Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 08 May 2011 16:12 (permalink)
                It all depends on what your goal is?
                If it´s to cut fat, take it in the morning when your bloodsugar is at it lowest. It will not burn fat when your bloodsugar is elevated, the body´s natural mechanism is to store fat when your bloodsugar is elevated, and HGH will not change that.
                Do not take it before bedtime, unless your natural production of GH i close to zero. It will supres your natural production, which will rob you from 2-3 all natural units.
                If your goal is to increase musclemass, HGH probably isnt right for your, since it has minimal effect on increasing musclemass. But it can be used pre workout to increase your IGF levels, which allways is a good thing when musclemass is your goal.
                 
                Sorry for any misspelling :)
                 
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                  Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 09 May 2011 09:51 (permalink)
                  johnnycage


                  so forddee if using hgh for fat loss pre comp its better to do before bed?does it burn more fat if shot at that time?


                  I know there are mixed veiws on GH timing but this works for me very well ,and i will carry on using it to get me into stage shape.
                   
                  Dosing would be 4-5ius just as i go up to bed.
                   
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                    Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 09 May 2011 16:59 (permalink)
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                    Do not take it before bedtime, unless your natural production of GH i close to zero. It will supres your natural production, which will rob you from 2-3 all natural units.

                    Sorry for any misspelling :)

                     
                    I believe quite the opposet, it takes a while for the injected GH to get going in the body and that the body will produce its own natural GH once you fall asleep a long time before the injected GH could reach concentrations to shut production down.
                    I also believe that GH is on a 24hr feedback loop and disturbs this feed back if injected am, it will disrupt the pm output.
                     
                     
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                      Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 09 May 2011 19:39 (permalink)
                      Bollocks, injectable hgh should start binding to receptors almost immediately. It doesn't take a while to get going at all.

                      I'm not particularly arsed about missing out on natural hgh if i'm using synthetic hgh anyway, I'd inject 4-8iu and miss out on what... 0.5iu?... oh sh1t.... As far as i'm aware there's no proof that using synthetic hgh even affects natural production anyway is there?... ould be wrong but i've often heard it mentioned but never seen any evidence...

                      For me, best results from hgh were using pre cardio on a daily basis for fat loss (well 5 days a week as i had 2 off days) ... other than that i don't think it makes a blind bit of difference when you inject, muscular gains from hgh itself are minimal at best and timing of jabs is irrelevant in that respect ime.
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                        Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 10 May 2011 00:21 (permalink)
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                        Bollocks, injectable hgh should start binding to receptors almost immediately. It doesn't take a while to get going at all.

                        I'm not particularly arsed about missing out on natural hgh if i'm using synthetic hgh anyway, I'd inject 4-8iu and miss out on what... 0.5iu?... oh sh1t.... As far as i'm aware there's no proof that using synthetic hgh even affects natural production anyway is there?... ould be wrong but i've often heard it mentioned but never seen any evidence...

                        For me, best results from hgh were using pre cardio on a daily basis for fat loss (well 5 days a week as i had 2 off days) ... other than that i don't think it makes a blind bit of difference when you inject, muscular gains from hgh itself are minimal at best and timing of jabs is irrelevant in that respect ime.

                         
                        "Bollox" Real inteligent. You state my post is Bollox and then kick of with "SHOULD" should do this should do that.
                        So what your really saying is you don't know! Is that the case?
                        Have a read at the link it should teach you something. Maybe! as for me IT DID TEACH ME.
                        You may not be arsed about shutting yourself down others are.
                        http://jcem.endojournals..../content/full/85/2/601
                         
                        "Exogenous 20K Growth Hormone (GH) Suppresses Endogenous 22K GH Secretion in Normal Men" Y. Hashimoto et al. 2000

                        It is of special interest since the experiment was done on 32 HEALTHY adults aged 20-31.

                        OK, the key findings which contradicts much of the hype around hgh:

                        *Exogenous hgh administration (sc) will not supress endogenous hgh production before 4 hours after administartion.

                        *IGF levels will raise slowly in 12 hours after administartion and then raise rapidly and reach a peak about 24 hours after administration.

                        *Exogenous hgh administration will supress endogenous hgh prduction for about 24 hours. This did even occur at small doses of 1-2iu a day.

                        *HGH is very dose dependant. A 10iu dose will give a ten fold increase in peak concentration levels of both hgh and igf-1. Also a bigger dose will not increase the supression time or peak times.

                        In regard to timining of hgh injections this would mean that the best time to inject your hgh is just before you go to sleep. That way you will still get your largest endogenous pulse, which accours about 2 hours after you go to sleep, and when that pulse is over, a little later in about 4 hours your hgh levelse will reach another peak from the hgh administration. The supression of your own hgh will be finished by the time you do your next injection the day after at the same time, so you will still get the deep sleep pulse the night after.

                        By taking your shots am you will supress all endogenous production of hgh the following nigth. Forget thinking that going up taking your shot 4am or 7am will help you not supress your own production, you will be shut down for 24 hours.
                         
                        By doing several injections each day like am/afternoon you will shut down your own production completely.



                         
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                          Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 10 May 2011 06:14 (permalink)
                          Very interesting read there SATRAT!
                          Thaks a lot, that certainly gave me some usefull information :)
                           
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                            Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 10 May 2011 15:37 (permalink)
                            and this is why I prefer 8iu eod.
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                            http://jcem.endojournals..../content/full/85/2/601

                            "Exogenous 20K Growth Hormone (GH) Suppresses Endogenous 22K GH Secretion in Normal Men" Y. Hashimoto et al. 2000

                            It is of special interest since the experiment was done on 32 HEALTHY adults aged 20-31.

                            OK, the key findings which contradicts much of the hype around hgh:

                            *Exogenous hgh administration (sc) will not supress endogenous hgh production before 4 hours after administartion.

                            *IGF levels will raise slowly in 12 hours after administartion and then raise rapidly and reach a peak about 24 hours after administration.

                            *Exogenous hgh administration will supress endogenous hgh prduction for about 24 hours. This did even occur at small doses of 1-2iu a day.

                            *HGH is very dose dependant. A 10iu dose will give a ten fold increase in peak concentration levels of both hgh and igf-1. Also a bigger dose will not increase the supression time or peak times.

                            In regard to timining of hgh injections this would mean that the best time to inject your hgh is just before you go to sleep. That way you will still get your largest endogenous pulse, which accours about 2 hours after you go to sleep, and when that pulse is over, a little later in about 4 hours your hgh levelse will reach another peak from the hgh administration. The supression of your own hgh will be finished by the time you do your next injection the day after at the same time, so you will still get the deep sleep pulse the night after.

                            By taking your shots am you will supress all endogenous production of hgh the following nigth. Forget thinking that going up taking your shot 4am or 7am will help you not supress your own production, you will be shut down for 24 hours.

                            By doing several injections each day like am/afternoon you will shut down your own production completely.




                             
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                              Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 10 May 2011 16:14 (permalink)
                              Thanks for the link, very informative but regardless you're injecting well above natural levels. It's essentially no different than using aas I.e replacing lower levels with supra human doses for the required effect

                              I wouldn't refer to it as shutting yourself down either, you're merely replacing your natural levels which return the moment you cease the injections.

                              Like I said, inject your dose miss out on a negligible amount if natural growth.... the fact remains that results will not be affected regardless of injection timing ime.


                              Ps injectable hgh Does Start binding to receptors as soon as its absorbed.... no need to be a smart ass over semantics....
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                                Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 10 May 2011 17:12 (permalink)
                                having tried lots of different ways to run HGH, i strongly believe that its IUS over a given time period that makes the difference, not how they are taken.
                                 
                                20 ius per week pretty much however its taken will give 20ius worth of results. 
                                 
                                the most important thing with GH is actually taking it.  the rest doesnt make that much difference imo!
                                 
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                                  Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 11 May 2011 00:13 (permalink)
                                  "no need to be a smart ass over semantics."
                                  Vulgar English and a lack of manners.
                                  One is not called for and the other is free.
                                  Your most welcome for the link.
                                   
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                                    Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 11 May 2011 00:20 (permalink)
                                    And you being an arsehole isn't a lack of manners? Smug tosser,,,,

                                    Fvck off mate.... it works both ways.

                                    All the best.

                                    Oh and by the way it's " You're"

                                    Hypocrite as well.... nice.


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                                      Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 12 May 2011 05:35 (permalink)
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                                      And you being an arsehole isn't a lack of manners? Smug tosser,,,,

                                      Fvck off mate.... it works both ways.

                                      All the best.

                                      Oh and by the way it's " You're"

                                      Hypocrite as well.... nice.

                                      LOL.
                                      Like I said the 1st time "Vulgar English and a lack of manners"
                                      You have amazed me a 2nd time. Sorry but I'll not lower my standards to
                                      arguing over the use of vulgar language, good manners and etiquette with a Wigger.  
                                       
                                       
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                                        Re:Best time to inject HGH?? 12 May 2011 07:42 (permalink)
                                        Lol wigger?

                                        Racist too.... nice.

                                        Smug, hypocritical, racist with poor grammar... you're not nick griffin are you?

                                        People swear mate, that's life... if you see it as vulgar get in touch with the real world and get real, then perhaps stop trying to come across as intellectual and better than people when you're clearly far from it... I.e you have the grammar of a 15 year old boy.

                                        No doubt your job at the local call centre for 11 grand a year causes you to feel inferior so you have developed the need to lord it over people on the internet as a self estem boost.

                                        It's ok though.... i forgive you.
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