CK's Journal - The Road To Achieving a 1-Star Rating

No.13


I don't see what the issue is tbh. You can still sit down with her 3 times a day if needs be. Then in your own time supplement this with 3 more snacks in between no harm done.

It's abit of a running joke when I'm out with my parents that we need to stop every fews mins and crack a "feeding time" joke

Everyone you speak to is an expert on nutrition by the way. Especially the 'out of shape' ones. The only reason they havent got the body of a God(dess) is because of bad genes, or a dodgey knee etc etc etc etc

Yeah I said I'd sit with the family at dinner time and just eat my own meal, but then she started moaning saying like "oh so my food isn't good enough for you now" etc. LOL Ah you're right there's no issue really it just annoys me that everybody keeps pontificating to me about diet and nutrition when they don't have a clue. I've been bulking for nearly a year now and throughout that whole time my family (well particularly my mum and sister) have been preaching the obligatory "If you keep eating like that you're going to get fat" etc, well it's been nearly a year and I haven't gotten fat (in fact I've lost fat) so when, pray tell, do they anticipate this fatness to start I wonder??

You're dead right about everybody being an expert on nutrition, talking to one of the lads on a night out a few weeks ago who is in very mediocre shape and pretty weak, and he was preaching to me that "protein shakes just make you fat" and so on, does my head in sometimes!!

I know where you are coming from with your mother giving you grief.
My wife just does not get my training. She gets peed off that i eat "all the food, all the time" and that i eat before she is cooks dinner. I've even resorted to calling round my mothers house just to sneakily make myself something to eat without the wife knowing haha.

CK, what does your mum cook? My mum is the most picky eater ever so when I do occasionally see her nowadays I have something totally different anyway. When I lived at home I was on a diet of chips, kievs and beans most of the time. There's quite alot of history in my family with diabetes and heart disease so think she may even likes the fact I try to look after myself. My dad eats pretty well but drinks like a fish

Heh heh, my flatmate keeps insisting that I'm going to be fat in 5years time or whatever, as "all my muscle will just turn into fat". Coming from a guy who struggles to walk up a flight of stairs without losing breath.

I had another mate who suggested that excessive protein (i.e. more than 60g per day!) was a waste. And that you didnt need to do squats to get big legs.... jogging 20mins everyday will give you legs like Ronnie Coleman apparently. Bear in mind this guy was built like Peter Crouch.

Bah, each to their own, but quite happy with how I'm doing thankyou!

Oh don't get me wrong my mum and dad both cook great food, I absolutely love their cooking for the most part. It's just that they tend to use really heavy creamy sauces whenever they make curry type dishes which contain a lot of fat/salt/sodium/sugar. And also the meals they make rarely have enough protein in them for me, they usually use maybe 2/3 chicken breasts for a dinner that is split between 5 (sometimes 6) people. And I have my diet all planned out and I'm making all my meals in advance anyway so I want to stick to it.

TBH I do agree with 'each to their own', I would never criticise my dad's diet even though his diet is absolutely awful (whether you're into training or not!), but it should work both ways - just wish they wouldn't criticise!

Just ordered a pair of straps, my grip has definitely been failing me on Deads and Rows before anything else and it was pissing me off so I figured I'd get some straps. I bet some of the strength guys like Owen or IainK will give me some sh1t for this haha

chalk is cheaper and just as good. only girls use straps

No.13


CK, what does your mum cook? My mum is the most picky eater ever so when I do occasionally see her nowadays I have something totally different anyway. When I lived at home I was on a diet of chips, kievs and beans most of the time. There's quite alot of history in my family with diabetes and heart disease so think she may even likes the fact I try to look after myself. My dad eats pretty well but drinks like a fish

Heh heh, my flatmate keeps insisting that I'm going to be fat in 5years time or whatever, as "all my muscle will just turn into fat". Coming from a guy who struggles to walk up a flight of stairs without losing breath.

I had another mate who suggested that excessive protein (i.e. more than 60g per day!) was a waste. And that you didnt need to do squats to get big legs.... jogging 20mins everyday will give you legs like Ronnie Coleman apparently. Bear in mind this guy was built like Peter Crouch.

Bah, each to their own, but quite happy with how I'm doing thankyou!

Man that is SO f.ucking weird, I was just thinking about you saying that and I was watching that tv show QI just now, and they started talking about the misconception of fat turning into muscle and vice-versa... hmmm very strange

Krisby


chalk is cheaper and just as good. only girls use straps

haha, I actually went back to using straps today. nobody else in my gym uses chalk so i keep getting a bollocking for covering the gym with it

Man that is SO f.ucking weird, I was just thinking about you saying that and I was watching that tv show QI just now, and they started talking about the misconception of fat turning into muscle and vice-versa... hmmm very strange

It's because me and stephen fry are soul brothers. He can sense my thoughts... I even have him on twitter

And Krisby's right, straps are for girls! But then again I train at home so I dont mind every plate/barbell/dumbbell/inch of my bench covered in chalk.

Straps ARE for girls. Chalk is the only thing worthy of using. I get bollocked for it at my gym, but its not banned. Its a gym, not a pristine house and i wanna lift heavy so

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Man that is SO f.ucking weird, I was just thinking about you saying that and I was watching that tv show QI just now, and they started talking about the misconception of fat turning into muscle and vice-versa... hmmm very strange

It's because me and stephen fry are soul brothers. He can sense my thoughts... I even have him on twitter

And Krisby's right, straps are for girls! But then again I train at home so I dont mind every plate/barbell/dumbbell/inch of my bench covered in chalk.

Me too! LOL

Owen


Straps ARE for girls. Chalk is the only thing worthy of using. I get bollocked for it at my gym, but its not banned. Its a gym, not a pristine house and i wanna lift heavy so

I've used chalk before and I really didn't notice that much of a difference with it! The main reason I'm getting straps is because my grip was failing very early on heavy DB Rows and BB shrugs as well, and I've tried chalk with both of these exercises and found it didn't help much. I won't use straps much on Deads I'm sure, but maybe for max attempts..

Really? i noticed a great difference! couldnt go without it now. Fair enough mate.

Maybe it was just crap chalk or something. But sure the straps were only a tenner so its not the end of the world anyway!

Still been researching loads on DC training, decided I'm definitely going to give this a go, maybe in the new year perhaps. I know strictly speaking Dante and most of the DCers would say that I am not 'ready' to try DC training but I really think there is a lot of bullsh1t in that - there seems to be a lot of contempt towards "noobs" flying around Intensemuscle and in basically everything Dante has written about DC training and he just seems to assume that most people who have been training for less than 3 years are complete idiots who just want "big biceptz" and just want to try DC training because they heard about it as the next big thing on bodybuilding.com.

I can understand where Dante is coming from in this regard, and I'm sure the last thing he wants is morons injuring themselves doing his workout programme, and I can kind of understand his contempt as well: he doesn't want his programme to be reduced to some mere bandwagon and his training principles sullied by a mass influx of noobs.

All of this notwithstanding, we are after all only talking about a new routine here; it's not like I'm contemplating running an AAS cycle when it's questionable that I'm ready to or not. I realise this kind of training will incorporate periods of intensity the likes of which I haven't experienced in weights training before, but it's not like there is the potential of severely adverse side effects detrimental to long term health or anything! And besides I imagine I will only be doing this routine for no more than 8 weeks or so anyway.

Soooooo...with that in mind, I've been thinking about my choice of exercises for the programme. The idea is that you choose your favourite 3 exercises for each body part and alternate them in cycles split into two workouts, upper body and lower body (plus biceps and forearms). My exercises would probably be:

Chest
Incline Bench Press
Flat DB Press
Incline Bench Press (Smith)

Shoulders
Strict OH Press
Seated DB Press
Seated Behind-Neck Press (Smith); OR Arnold Press

Triceps
Skull Crushers
CGBP
Cable Pushdowns

Back Width
Wide-Grip Pulldowns
Behind-Neck Pulldowns
Chin Ups; OR Narrow-Grip Pulldowns

Back Thickness
Deadlift
DB Bent-Over Rows
BB Bent-Over Rows

Biceps
EZ Curls
Alternate DB Curls
Cable Curls; OR Incline DB Curls

Forearms
Hammer Curls
Reverse Curls
Pinwheel Curls

Calves
Standing Calf Raise (Smith)
Seated Calf Raise
Calf Raise on Leg Press

Hamstrings
SLDL
Seated Leg Curls
Good Mornings; OR SLDL (Smith)

Quads
Squat
Front Squat
Leg Press


So workout number 1 would look something like this:

*n1xn2xn3 denotes rest-pause set reps (15 deep breaths/~20 seconds)
**weights used are based on my current lifts

Incline Bench Press
20kg x 12
30kg x 8
40kg x 6
50kg x 4
62.5kg x 10 x 4 x 1
Chest Stretch

OH Press
20kg x 12
25kg x 8
30kg x 6
40kg x 4
52.5kg x 8 x 4 x 1
Delt Stretch

Skull Crushers
(Unsure whether to include any warmup here as triceps will be firing at this stage already, I've read conflicting opinions on this)
27kg x 10 x 4 x 1
Triceps Stretch

Wide-Grip Pulldowns
20kg x 12
30kg x 8
40kg x 6
50kg x 4
62.5kg x 10 x 4 x 1

Deadlift
40kg x 12
60kg x 8
80kg x 6
90kg x 4
100kg x 15-20
Back Stretch

And workout number 2 would look like:

EZ Curls
10kg x 12
15kg x 8
20kg x 6
25kg x 4
30kg x 8 x 4 x 1

Hammer Curls
(Again unsure as to whether a warmup would be necessary here)
15kg x 15
Bicep Stretch

Standing Calf Raise (Smith)
60kg x 12
70kg x 8
80kg x 6
90kg x 4
100kg x 10 (inc. 20 sec negative phase)

SLDL
30kg x 12
40kg x 8
50kg x 6
60kg x 4
70kg x 20

Squat
20kg x 12
40kg x 8
60kg x 6
80kg x 4
100kg x 4-6
Widowmaker (20 reps, no idea really what weight I'd use for this)
Quad and Hamstring Stretches
Crawl to the changing room and get sick

Workout 3 would be the same as workout 1 except using my second choice exercises (Flat DB Press instead of Incline Bench Press, Seated DB Press instead of OH Press, etc.) The warmup periods are preliminary, DC doesn't really have any warmup protocol set in stone or anything, it just requires that you do whatever warmup you feel you need, the warmup sets I listed above are based loosely on Dante's examples.

F.uck me that's a long post, LOL. Well that's about the long and short of it I guess. Looks like a lot of fun... For the time being I will be sticking to trusty P/P/L, but the more I think and read about DC the more tempted I am to try it, so I think I just might.

Pull - 10/12/09

Deadlift
60kg x 10
100kg x 6
122.5kg x 5 (+2.5kg)
122.5kg x 5
122.5kg x 4

BB Bent-Over Rows
(the 42kg DB's were being used by somebody else so decided to do this instead)
60kg x 10
60kg x 9
60kg x 9

Wide-Grip Pulldowns
14/20 x 10
14/20 x 10 (+1)
14/20 x 9 (+3)


Alternate DB Curls
16kg x 10
16kg x 8
16kg x 8


BB Shrugs (Smith)
100kg x 10
100kg x 10
100kg x 9


My straps should be arriving tomorrow so this will surely be my last pull session before I start using them, and I'm very much looking forward to it tbh, my hands are in absolute tatters right now, all the callouses I had have now swollen up and turned into blisters, curse my amazingly soft skin!

Good session mate, deadlifting wrecks my hands as well.

Hi mate,

I'm pretty new here and just been reading through the journal, impressive gaining!

I've only been training (properly with compounds) for 2 and a bit months now and stuff like this is always an inspiration so well played!

I was just wondering, how much is your diet costing you roughly per week? I'll be moving into my own flat in January (just graduated as well.. funny how that works huh? haha!) and I'll need to keep a much closer eye on the cost of what I'm getting in. Money isn't too much of an objective thankfully, but I'd rather it not spiral out of control :)

Cheers and keep up the good work!
 
Edit: Forgot to mention... a partial reason I got hooked to this thread was the Patrick Bateman appreciation. I've been obsessed by both book and movie for a few years now! though a fair chunk of the book is incredibly hard to read without getting nauteous :S!
 
It's funny as well reading stories about folk posing constantly in the gym... there's quite alot in the book where he's actually in his gym and resenting (in only a way Bateman could) the very sort! also for anyone whose read the book.. you all know what happens eventually in his gym! :D
 
"Don't just stare at it, eat it!"

WayneManor


Hi mate,

I'm pretty new here and just been reading through the journal, impressive gaining!

I've only been training (properly with compounds) for 2 and a bit months now and stuff like this is always an inspiration so well played!

I was just wondering, how much is your diet costing you roughly per week? I'll be moving into my own flat in January (just graduated as well.. funny how that works huh? haha!) and I'll need to keep a much closer eye on the cost of what I'm getting in. Money isn't too much of an objective thankfully, but I'd rather it not spiral out of control :)

Cheers and keep up the good work!
 
Edit: Forgot to mention... a partial reason I got hooked to this thread was the Patrick Bateman appreciation. I've been obsessed by both book and movie for a few years now! though a fair chunk of the book is incredibly hard to read without getting nauteous :S!
 
It's funny as well reading stories about folk posing constantly in the gym... there's quite alot in the book where he's actually in his gym and resenting (in only a way Bateman could) the very sort! also for anyone whose read the book.. you all know what happens eventually in his gym! :D
 
"Don't just stare at it, eat it!"

Hey there,

Cheers for the comments, it's nice to know I've inspired somebody haha! And good to see another fellow Bateman head, there are a few of them around MT but we're pretty rare haha.

I actually worked out the cost of my diet the other day and it works out to just about 5 euro a day (not sure what that would be in pounds, 4 pounds maybe?), which is pretty damn cheap. The reason it's so cheap is because I shop in LIDL! Personally I think the food there is perfect and does the job perfectly!

You ever considered starting a journal? I reckon you should give it a go!