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Re:Calf measurement? 24 January 2012 09:08 (permalink)
 
In fairness mate some of what you said is very true. It is easy to blame genetics and many people myself included to end up neglecting weaknesses because they become frustrated with them. 
 
I train for strongman comps now so I'll use an example based on this.I've always struggled with overhead lifting in comparison to many of my competitors. I never looked forward to training overhead and was quick to spit my dummy out and move onto something else when I failed a lift.Overhead events continued to cost me big points in comps and I just generally felt negative about it all. 
 
Last year I qualified for BSM U90K which had a FTOH event with a 125k barbell. My PB at the time was a piss poor 105K. At first I simply resigned myself to 'no repping' on that event but decided I would actually plan my training to prioritise overhead and shoot for the impossible in the hope that if nothing else it might add another 5k or so to my PB. 
 
This mind set seemed to take the pressure off my training and I didn't feel as negative going into workout. Low and behold I started making progress and over the course of a few weeks my PB crept up until the week before the comp I managed 125kx2.
 
Obviously this shows that the right mindset and hard work can help overcome weaknesses, however ...I failed the lift at the comp and compared to most of my U90k peers my overhead is still sh*te!
 
I've trained with weights for over twenty years and lost count of the number of training partners I've had who have made better progress than me despite a worse diet and many more missed sessions. 
 
I'm a natural ectomorph. My wrists and ankles are tiny. My forearm , calves and biceps have little narrow muscle bellies with high insertions. All the training , protein and drugs in the world won't make them really impressive.
 
 
Christ knows if any of that makes sense or explains my viewpoint or lasts nights outburst but I hope it does in some way. 
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    Re:Calf measurement? 24 January 2012 09:16 (permalink)
    Has anyone thought about adding skipping to their training to help with their calves?? Use it as a warm up and as cardio and you'd be adding a hell of a lot of calf reps to your training. Could be an interesting experiment
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      Re:Calf measurement? 24 January 2012 12:03 (permalink)
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      In fairness mate some of what you said is very true. It is easy to blame genetics and many people myself included to end up neglecting weaknesses because they become frustrated with them. 

      I train for strongman comps now so I'll use an example based on this.I've always struggled with overhead lifting in comparison to many of my competitors. I never looked forward to training overhead and was quick to spit my dummy out and move onto something else when I failed a lift.Overhead events continued to cost me big points in comps and I just generally felt negative about it all. 

      Last year I qualified for BSM U90K which had a FTOH event with a 125k barbell. My PB at the time was a piss poor 105K. At first I simply resigned myself to 'no repping' on that event but decided I would actually plan my training to prioritise overhead and shoot for the impossible in the hope that if nothing else it might add another 5k or so to my PB. 

      This mind set seemed to take the pressure off my training and I didn't feel as negative going into workout. Low and behold I started making progress and over the course of a few weeks my PB crept up until the week before the comp I managed 125kx2.

      Obviously this shows that the right mindset and hard work can help overcome weaknesses, however ...I failed the lift at the comp and compared to most of my U90k peers my overhead is still sh*te!

      I've trained with weights for over twenty years and lost count of the number of training partners I've had who have made better progress than me despite a worse diet and many more missed sessions. 

      I'm a natural ectomorph. My wrists and ankles are tiny. My forearm , calves and biceps have little narrow muscle bellies with high insertions. All the training , protein and drugs in the world won't make them really impressive.


      Christ knows if any of that makes sense or explains my viewpoint or lasts nights outburst but I hope it does in some way. 

      Pagan,
       
      Yeah, it all makes sense, I must admit i was alittle surprised as I find your posts are very well thought out and make interesting reading so I just imagined I'd hit a nerve (unintentionally).
       
      Just to try and explain why I thought like I did.
      I too have a delicate frame (just over 6" wrists), I've always had puny arms and biggish (for my frame) calfs and always blamed it on how I'm made up. All  the men in my family are the same build, around 6 foot tall with a slight frame and all have puny arms. I am the only one however, with decent calfs and I'm also the only one who's cycled lots and rowed.
       
      Since I've been training I've managed to increase my upper arm measurement by an inch in 14 weeks which surprised the hell out of me. This got me thinking that I was wrong about my puny arms being purely genetic and that finding the right training regime (for me) has made them grow. I then thought further that my calfs are bigger than the rest of my families as I have trained them hard for years cycling and rowing so again the genetic thing didn't seem the whole reason behind that either.
       
      I do believe that there is only so much you can do with what you've got but I also think that it's easier to focus on your strengths rather than your weaknesses and find a convenient reason to explain things away.
       
      I think calfs are harder to focus on, there's not so much variety as for biceps/triceps and a lot of people tend to focus their attention on their arms as we all want a good set of arms to show off.
       
      In a way I came across as saying the calf equivalent of "shut up and Squat" (which seems to be a cool thing to say), I guess it was my delivery that was even more flawed than my thinking.
       
       
      I'm very keen to learn so I'd love to know more about why calfs appear to be so hard for many people to develop, are they in some way different to other muscles in the body in the way they respond to training. When I was a gym member there were lots of guys with very big upper bodies and tiny calfs, I just assumed they didn't give them the same attention as their arms.
       
      "Never miss a good opportunity to shut the f**k up"
       
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        Re:Calf measurement? 24 January 2012 12:45 (permalink)
         
        Funny you should mention rowing. I did some rowing intervals the other day and I had pretty bad DOMS in my calves the next day. I've done a fair bit of rowing (concept II) in my training before now but I've not really noticed it working my calves before. 
         
        You don't really focus on calves in strongman. They get worked with squats and romping about with 300k yokes on your back but very few lads actually train them  directly that I know of.
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          Re:Calf measurement? 24 January 2012 18:34 (permalink)
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          I've trained with weights for over twenty years and lost count of the number of training partners I've had who have made better progress than me despite a worse diet and many more missed sessions. 

          I'm a natural ectomorph. My wrists and ankles are tiny. My forearm , calves and biceps have little narrow muscle bellies with high insertions. All the training , protein and drugs in the world won't make them really impressive.


           
          Mate I can relate to so much of that post, especially the bit quoted above. 
           
           



           
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            Re:Calf measurement? 24 January 2012 18:41 (permalink)
            I think one of my ancestors must have been a sparrow.......................I train my calves hard but find them to be the hardest area to make any progress on..................very frustrating.
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              Re:Calf measurement? 24 January 2012 19:20 (permalink)
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              In fairness mate some of what you said is very true. It is easy to blame genetics and many people myself included to end up neglecting weaknesses because they become frustrated with them. 

              I train for strongman comps now so I'll use an example based on this.I've always struggled with overhead lifting in comparison to many of my competitors. I never looked forward to training overhead and was quick to spit my dummy out and move onto something else when I failed a lift.Overhead events continued to cost me big points in comps and I just generally felt negative about it all. 

              Last year I qualified for BSM U90K which had a FTOH event with a 125k barbell. My PB at the time was a piss poor 105K. At first I simply resigned myself to 'no repping' on that event but decided I would actually plan my training to prioritise overhead and shoot for the impossible in the hope that if nothing else it might add another 5k or so to my PB. 

              This mind set seemed to take the pressure off my training and I didn't feel as negative going into workout. Low and behold I started making progress and over the course of a few weeks my PB crept up until the week before the comp I managed 125kx2.

              Obviously this shows that the right mindset and hard work can help overcome weaknesses, however ...I failed the lift at the comp and compared to most of my U90k peers my overhead is still sh*te!

              I've trained with weights for over twenty years and lost count of the number of training partners I've had who have made better progress than me despite a worse diet and many more missed sessions. 

              I'm a natural ectomorph. My wrists and ankles are tiny. My forearm , calves and biceps have little narrow muscle bellies with high insertions. All the training , protein and drugs in the world won't make them really impressive.


              Christ knows if any of that makes sense or explains my viewpoint or lasts nights outburst but I hope it does in some way. 

              Been training 24yrs myself and as above , have slim wrists and ankles and a natural ectomorph although being 41 I've been able to add more weight on. Currently just 16st. When I started I was 6ft 2ins ans 10.5st ouch! To give you an idea of how slim I was....I could touch the tips of my middle fingers at the back of my upper thighs and I could touch the tips of my thumbs around the front of my thigh! Now THAT'S thin!! Try it! (Got them to 25ins now!)
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                Re:Calf measurement? 24 January 2012 19:25 (permalink)
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                I think one of my ancestors must have been a sparrow.......................I train my calves hard but find them to be the hardest area to make any progress on..................very frustrating.

                Lol. Yeah I'm trying more sets and every 2 days now.
                 
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                  Re:Calf measurement? 25 January 2012 11:29 (permalink)
                  Just measured mine at 13" lol Dont train them as have no real need to ;)
                   
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                    Re:Calf measurement? 25 January 2012 17:42 (permalink)
                    Mine are around 20", im 5ft 8 and i dont even train them!
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                      Re:Calf measurement? 25 January 2012 18:56 (permalink)
                      Jack About


                      mine are just over 18" i'm 6'3" - again lots of cycling when young


                      Wow! What weight are you Jack About?
                      I'm 6ft 2ins and mine just just under 16ins and I'm just 16st stone.
                       
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                        Re:Calf measurement? 25 January 2012 20:09 (permalink)
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                        Mine are around 20", im 5ft 8 and i dont even train them!

                         
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                          Re:Calf measurement? 25 January 2012 20:26 (permalink)
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                          AlexGTR


                          Mine are around 20", im 5ft 8 and i dont even train them!


                          Postman ?


                           
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                            Re:Calf measurement? 25 January 2012 20:29 (permalink)
                            Although my postman has got sticks for legs! Yet he insists on wearing shorts ALL year round! Hail, sleet or yes!....Snow! Maybe he's doing an Arnold and wearing shorts all the time so there's no hiding place for them! Lol
                             
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                              Re:Calf measurement? 25 January 2012 20:33 (permalink)
                              Had to measure mine...................14", my biceps are bigger ffs
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                                Re:Calf measurement? 25 January 2012 20:49 (permalink)
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                                Had to measure mine...................14", my biceps are bigger ffs

                                Lol what height are you Hoppy?
                                 
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                                  Re:Calf measurement? 25 January 2012 20:50 (permalink)
                                  Also is that ins or cms? Lol
                                   
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                                    Re:Calf measurement? 11 February 2012 19:20 (permalink)
                                    Calves are up 1/4 inch!
                                    16ins now, cold ( pumped also up 1/4 ins ie 16+ 3/4ins: ) .
                                    WOW I hear you say, with an air of sarcasm....but that's no mean feat for me! In fact....I considered taking out a MuscleTalk Message Announcement and then thought about starting another Shamless Self Appreciation thread! In the end I simply opted for this humble post!
                                     
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