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Re:Difference between EAA and BCAA 2012/03/23 09:28:54 (permalink)
Oh and the tweets are only 140 characters long so they didn't go into any real detail sadly.


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Re:Difference between EAA and BCAA 2012/03/23 09:51:56 (permalink)
I'm a believer in EAA's personally because they have the BCAA's in as well anyway and I don't eat animal protein other than chicken.  I use Glutamine and EAA's throughout the day (separately) and BCAA's before, during and after a workout.  The main issue I have is keeping the Glutamine separate from the EAA's.  When I think about it the only time I will use the Glutamine with the BCAA's will be before training because during the Glutamine will get wasted and afterwards I take EAA's with BCAA's then Glutamine half an hour later.
 
I don't use twitter but if there is milage in setting it up I will look into it.  Can you let me know his twitter account is and I will do this over the weekend.
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Re:Difference between EAA and BCAA 2012/03/23 10:53:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
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I'm a believer in EAA's personally because they have the BCAA's in as well anyway and I don't eat animal protein other than chicken.  I use Glutamine and EAA's throughout the day (separately) and BCAA's before, during and after a workout.  The main issue I have is keeping the Glutamine separate from the EAA's.  When I think about it the only time I will use the Glutamine with the BCAA's will be before training because during the Glutamine will get wasted and afterwards I take EAA's with BCAA's then Glutamine half an hour later.

I don't use twitter but if there is milage in setting it up I will look into it.  Can you let me know his twitter account is and I will do this over the weekend.

if this is the case then surely the only really effective time to take glutamine would be on an empty stomach fasted.
 
or if you havnt eaten for 3-4 hours.
 
I always take a good 15-20g glutamine on rising 15-20 mins pre my first meal.
 
then i take another 15g with my intra shake which consists of 5g BCAA and 15g EAA.  i dont think any of the aminos will be wasted per say and as long as you have enough leucine to stimulate PS going into the workout and enough BCAA to prevent your own stores being oxidised then everything will more than likely be useful at this time.
 
This is just what i do but find it relativly effective.
 
I intend to switch it up and try using just leucine intra workout with some carbs then a bolus dose of EAA/BCAA pwo

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Re:Difference between EAA and BCAA 2012/03/23 11:26:00 (permalink)
Hi Hilly :)
Not sure if you recognise me I used to work the doors down your way and saw you at discus a while back.  I noticed your quite active on these forums, its something I'm trying to waste my time on rather than let facebook suck the life out of me LOL !!
 
I take several doses of Glutamine a day and where possible take them about 3 hours after a meal or 30 minutes before a meal or other amino's.  I don't like to take EEA's intra workout because what I have read in the past would suggest only BCAA's don't get oxidized at that time but I do take them directly after and sip BCAA's during.  I'm looking to add extra Leucine into the mix but I will only use Ajinomoto Amino's and haven't found anywhere I can get the Leucine from in the UK.  The only Ajinomoto Leucine I know is available is from Protein Factory in the US unless you want to order hundreds of kilo's from Ajinomoto's UK distributor.
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Re:Difference between EAA and BCAA 2012/03/23 11:31:36 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
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Hi Hilly :)
Not sure if you recognise me I used to work the doors down your way and saw you at discus a while back.  I noticed your quite active on these forums, its something I'm trying to waste my time on rather than let facebook suck the life out of me LOL !!

I take several doses of Glutamine a day and where possible take them about 3 hours after a meal or 30 minutes before a meal or other amino's.  I don't like to take EEA's intra workout because what I have read in the past would suggest only BCAA's don't get oxidized at that time but I do take them directly after and sip BCAA's during.  I'm looking to add extra Leucine into the mix but I will only use Ajinomoto Amino's and haven't found anywhere I can get the Leucine from in the UK.  The only Ajinomoto Leucine I know is available is from Protein Factory in the US unless you want to order hundreds of kilo's from Ajinomoto's UK distributor.

 
Ahh yes i do mate, hope your well
 
From my reading glutamine is best taken on an empty stomach so with how regular i eat i dont think daily feeds would work hence my bolus dose in the AM. 
 
The leucine idea is based on the fact some aminos compete for absorbtion over others and apparant the BCAA do this also.  So the theory is to take leucine on its own as this will prove an ample boost in PS.
 
However in the grand scheme of things will this make any difference to just taking BCAA or even EAA.  I mean if we take in 20g EAA you have your BCAA there so is it going to make a difference.
 
I feel if one is dieting very strictly then aminos are very useful and being very technical like this "could" be of use.
 
However if protein is ample and cals high then i doubt it makes much of any difference.
 
from my own experience and working with others i definatly find taking in some form of aminos over 10-15g with some carbs/glutamine and taurine seems to help reduce DOMS and improve recovery slightly as well as create a better pump

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Re:Difference between EAA and BCAA 2012/03/23 13:37:33 (permalink)
I am inclined to agree with you and I certainly find myself over analysing things, its just the way I am lol
 
I'm particularly over analysing things at the moment because I am dieting but it helps to bounce ideas off other people and get their input on their experiences
 
I'm thinking of cutting myself down to 1 cooked meal a day and using supplements the rest of the day.  I don't have a big appetite anyway and I eat 2 cooked meals a day at the moment anyway
 
thanks for the input pal 
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