Carbs V protein

am I right in thinking that carbs are just a form a energy, & protein does all the growth?
If I was on the gear & stayed on a almost protein only diet with very low carbs,
would this be good or bad for BB?

Why would you do that?

You think this is a serious post??

yes it is a serious post.
 
why would I - Because I needed to lose weight, so I mimmicked the Atkins diet by cutting out all carbs & eatting as much protein as possible. It worked! I lost the weight and leaned up well. So now Im asking why we need carbs?
 
Can you answer the question?

We don't need simple carbs, we didn't evolve to eat em and there only reason we do now is there isn't enough protein on the planet to feed everybody, carbs are easy to grow and cheap thats why we eat em. Carbs should come from veg and fruit and berry's only if you were to eat as you have evolved. You lost weight do to a better insulin response. I'm sure Liddy will disagree (I respect Liddy's opinions)

So for Body Building, No or very low carb intake would mean what? Just maybe a lack of energy?
 
I dont want to put the weight back on by eatting carbs, but if they are essential for BB, I would like to know why?
 
Typical dumb question from me, but why are carbs important then?

Sure no simple carbs, but are the complex ones much use for BB?
 

You would have to eat complex carbs otherwise you would die, no veg at all and only protein = death eventually 

What about carnivour animals - tigers etc, they dont eat bread & their mammals. Look at the muscle on them.
 
Still want to find out the benefits of carbs and BB

Well if you take bears, they eat no carbs and lots of fatty fish to lean up summer time, eat bush roots (starchy carbs) near winter to fatten up for winter. Hope this helps (there mammals) lols...........

Seriously though If you want to stay lean dont eat simple carbs but complex ones but in regards to bb, take simple carbs before and after training as this will help recovery as you will be depleting you glycogen stores in your liver, and this will not effect your fat losing or gaining just aid in recovery from exercise. ok oscars?

Yeah I guess so.
Cheers for the banter but im still no wiser.
Bed time for me bro
will pick it up again tomo.
laters

oscars


Yeah I guess so.
Cheers for the banter but im still no wiser.
Bed time for me bro
will pick it up again tomo.
laters

 
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is this a serious thread? There is alot of misinformation here.. my favourites being " you have to eat complex carbs or you die" and trying to emulate the diet of tigers and bears...

Elfangor


is this a serious thread? There is alot of misinformation here.. my favourites being " you have to eat complex carbs or you die" and trying to emulate the diet of tigers and bears...

If you didn't eat complex carbs from veg and only ate protein you would eventually die to do malnutrition.....fact ( he was hinting why no carbs at all) Where is the misinformation in that Elfangor??

LOL, yeah I know how it looks, The tiger/bears thing was tongue in check, but reasonable examles during a very late night debating with The Truth, my point was that carnivours dont need carbs, Im guessing their biology is simular to ours.
 
So why carbs? Its just energy to train isnt it?
 
Take away the carbs and body fat would go right right down due?
Protein only and you got all the growth and repair you need?
 
Come on! somone put in in my place with this once & for all !

oscars


What about carnivour animals - tigers etc, they dont eat bread & their mammals. Look at the muscle on them.

Still want to find out the benefits of carbs and BB

How about horses, they only eat grass and no protein at all, yet they are as strong as, well, a horse i guess.
Mind you, never seen on in the gym yet  
 
I dont know the answer to your question, but seeing as though i am a newby and the only thing i EVER thought about when eating food was the calories and saturated fats, i would be interested in the answer too.

lol good point!
Horses have to eat tons of hay mind, not sure about horses, but cows have 4 stomaches, and digest grass 4 times. But all that muscle on grass! but thats all they do, and they are very slow moving. But horses is a valid point.
 
No help to carbs in humans and BB question.
 
Im going to get some serious pi$$ take in a minute!
 
What about whale sharks and their plankton diet!

I would bet my house that if you where to look at exactly what Oscars was eating before then contrasted it to his protein only diet, the energy was less.  
The energy deficit resulted in the weight loss.  Sounds much like a PSMF (Protein Sparing Modified Fast) to me, they work.  Lyle McDonalds constructed a very good one for obese people to kick themselves into fat loss.
 
The Rapid Fat Loss Handbook. 
 
 

The Truth
 
If you didn't eat complex carbs from veg and only ate protein you would eventually die to do malnutrition.....fact ( he was hinting why no carbs at all) Where is the misinformation in that Elfangor?? 

 
 
I don't think we'd die from the lack of veg.  But if you ate 100% protein you're very insufficient on fats.  Carbs aren't essential at all, we could eat 0% carbs a be fine due to our body going through the process of ketogenesis and gluconeogenesis.

Liddy your absolutly correct. My house was in shi* order. Very heavy drinking, no training and a diet of junk!
 
Reduced drinking to twice a week, cut out all carbs, training 5 days a week, high protein diet & the results are amazing really.
 
I naturally tall & thin anyway, so to restore my health was easy compared to how hard some have to try.
 
I seriously abused myself for years, but turned it around well in less than 6 months.
 
So, I dont need carbs then? Should I keep doing what Im doing? Im only concerned that the lack of carbs will hinder my muscle growth. I cant see how and nobody has said otherwise.
 
I basically tried to copy the atkins diet, if anyone is in the same position I was, give it a go. No restrictions on the protein you eat - just cut all carbs out. Not the healthiest method, but it worked wonders for me