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2010/03/25 12:32:04 (permalink)

Chips after workout

Hey guys, wanted to confirm something :)

Obviously, quick acting carbs (simple) after a work out is beneficial, as it forces the protein into the muscles and restores glycogen - this is correct right? I also know that Sweet Potato is low G.I and slow release (complex carb), and normal, everyday, russet potatoes are simple carbs (i never realised this until around 3-4 months ago, assumed all potatoes were complex :P) - so would a pack of low fat microwave chips after workout, seeing as they are simple carbs, be good as either a substitute or eat along side a post workout shake which contains a simple carb mixture (usually Multidextrin or Dextrose, sometimes a 50:50 mix)

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    1ManRiot
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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/03/25 13:33:41 (permalink)
    If that is you in your ava mate then fcuk the chips and keep dong what you're already doing!

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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/03/25 14:10:58 (permalink)
    haha yeah that is me fella, that was last year when i cut up planning to compete however, due to a number of big life changing bombshells that year i changed my plans to compete perhaps next year - im still on a bulk at the moment, but am weighing now around 100kg for 5'6, my abs are still kind of visible, but i dont see too much need to cut down just yet if if competition is next year, that way i can focus more on a cleanish bulk for more mass.
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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/03/25 14:15:46 (permalink)
    there are better options

    wont do any harm once in a while tho

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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/03/25 16:15:12 (permalink)
    Cheers mate, is my theory behind them pretty sound though, or am I wrong? :)
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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/03/25 17:48:32 (permalink)
    I would wonder about the starch in the chips that wont be in malto / dextrose.  I've always understood that starch will slow down digestion (not as slow as a complex carb though)?

    But as Loz says now and again would be fine.

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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/03/26 11:38:24 (permalink)
    100kg @ 5'6"...??? Lummy!

    As a student I had McDonalds 20 chicken nugget meal and chips for my PWO meal, did the job but there would be better options.

    With regards to carbs forcing protein into muscle, I've yet to have anyone show me a mechanism for that! Glycogen stores are not essential for muscle growth.

    Mainly fat & protein PWO, with slow carbs in my PPWO meal for me
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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/03/26 12:22:51 (permalink)
    The window of opportunity is IMO nothing more than a time where eating high GI carbs isn't going to be bad for you. That doesn't mean that it is going to be good for you. The evidence is that sufficient protein will do you for muscle synthesis, whilst the insulin spike from carbs is at best anticatabolic, rather than anabolic - 2 different things.

    I'd much rather get EFAs in to help reduce inflammation and get the process of recovery into swing, and refill glycogen as required with slower carbs later on.

    I'm the first to admit this isn't a common train of thought, and does go against a lot of what a lot of people say. My personal sample size of 1 is currently showing it working very nicely (good growth, no DOMs, etc), other BBers we sponsor also dump EFAs into their PWO, some ditching carbs, others not, but the addition does push towards better recovery. It's an area I'm trying to get some direct research on, as the only comparative stuff is with milk fat.
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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/03/26 12:30:01 (permalink)
    I have heard so many things about this 'window of opportunity', some people say it can be as long as day, whether its bs or not i have no idea. It seems to differ all the time, I just do what I think is right for my body.

    Thanks for all the top info guys, it will only be now and then anyway, it was some low fat and salt microwave chips, so didnt feel too naughty :P

    Appreciate the constructive replies so far all

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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/03/26 13:17:20 (permalink)
    ryzo
    [...] I just do what I think is right for my body. [...]


    Like this ;)

    ryzoThanks for all the top info guys, it will only be now and then anyway, it was some low fat and salt microwave chips, so didnt feel too naughty :P


    Personally dont think chips are to bad, depends how you make them and what with.

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    [...]You would be best enlightened by reading the work of established authors[...]


    Can we have some sources please :)
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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/03/26 13:30:19 (permalink)
    What's EFAs, BTW??

    Excuse me for my bad English
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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/03/26 13:32:42 (permalink)
    Essential Fatty Acids

    John, with regards to my logic, I don't feel it is, and if R3261 bobbed his head into this thread he'd list you the relevant studies that would back up what I'm saying about carbs PWO.
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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/03/26 13:38:00 (permalink)
    cheers

    Excuse me for my bad English
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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/03/26 15:58:48 (permalink)
    I thought we covered this the other day. According to Page 9 of Coingestion of carbohydrate with protein does not further augment postexercise muscle protein synthesis, carbs post-WO reduce muscle breakdown, if there is any due to over-training on insufficient muscle glycogen. Carbs post-WO do not increase muscle synthesis.
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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/04/09 16:15:14 (permalink)
    john93

    Your logic is all wrong. You would be best enlightened by reading the work of established authors on PWO, PPWO, Insulin, insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) etc


    Source? Proof? Evidence?
     
    or prehaps bro science?
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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/04/09 17:10:03 (permalink)
    To be honest...for the last 4 weeks I have been delaying my post workout meal till 40 minutes post workout (even the whey) and have been getting good results. I was afraid to give this a try because of the "window of opportunity" that we all believe in but still decided to give it a go and it has actually been working out very good.
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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/04/10 07:48:29 (permalink)
    The only reason you shouldn't eat microwavable chips is because they are a crime against potatoes...don't let potatoes die in vain, have real chips!!!  Oven chips are also a heinous crime...

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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/04/10 11:02:50 (permalink)
    Science and Well being put aside for a minute

    I dream of a World where you work your nuts off in the gym, then pop down the Chippy for Fish and Chips, Mushy peas and Curry Sauce, and it have absolutely no adverse effect on you what-so-ever!!
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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/04/10 21:09:35 (permalink)
    Low fat, low salt chips PWO? Could do a lot worse IMO.

    Seems like a decent option to me, as long as it's combined with some protein.
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    Re:Chips after workout 2010/04/10 21:38:00 (permalink)
    oven cooked chips aint too bad either.
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