Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!!


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Ron Jeremy

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Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 01 February 2012 09:42 (permalink)
 
Hi all,
 
PLEASE GET INVOLVED OTHERWISE THIS WILL BE BORING! LOL
 
Hoping you can help me out and have some fun with your imaginations in the process by helping me choose which stack to run with first out of all of my stash.
Whichever choice out of what I have in my cupboard I will run. Including stack type, goal type and choice of compound.
 
I keep asking these questions but although I know a bit about each compound, I'm rubbish on working out how things stack best together and bridges and stuff.
 
In my cupboard, I currently have the following stash:
 
Dragon Pro-Epi - 50 caps (10mg)
Dragon Pro-Stano - 100 caps (200mg)
Dragon Pro-Tren - 70 caps (50mg)
Dragon Pro-Dzine - 100 caps (12.5mg)
Hero M1T - 100 caps (5mg)
Dragon Pro-ATD - 80 caps (10mg)
Hero ATD - 100 caps (10mg)
 
So quite a stash!!! In fact, I have cycles ranging from the mildest to the harshest and enough to keep me bulking or cutting for a year with sufficient breaks. Plenty of ATD for mild cycle PCT's, I will get my hands on NOLVA when I use the Dzine or M1T.
I will not buy anything else, the above are your resources.
 
Previously I have run an epi cycle, an epi-tren cycle, and a quarter of a dzine-stano cycle which I had to bail out of because of a sporting event and injury.
 
Rules - None (apart from consider my experience if choosing M1T etc. Safety is important!)
Cycle Type - Whatever. Stack, bridge, standalone, long, short, anything.
Goals - Whatever as long as it includes strength. Bulk, cut, re-comp. I'm happy with anything.
Me - experienced BB but not with gear. 6 foot. 105kg. 13% BF.
Lifts - 150kg bench for reps, 200kg dead for reps, 180kg squat for reps, 100kg military for reps.
 
SO...
I will run whichever cycle seems to be the most interesting, and will keep a log to note the details.
I will fit my diet to whatever the best option requires (ie bulk or cut), and have the knowledge and willpower to do any of them effectively.
 
If you want to see which options work, their sides, their results with proper application of training and diet, without having to run it yourself or search through logs; and if there are any stacks you've ever wondered about, let me know and put it forward.
 
My fate is in your hands...
 
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    Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 01 February 2012 11:10 (permalink)
    D-Zine, Tren and Stano stack.
     
    SERM PCT though not ATD.

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      Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 01 February 2012 11:17 (permalink)
      I can second this. Great cycle although say goodbye to your libido and hello to waking up in a pool of cold sweat most nights
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        Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 01 February 2012 11:18 (permalink)
        jw390898


        D-Zine, Tren and Stano stack.

        SERM PCT though not ATD.


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          Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 01 February 2012 12:27 (permalink)
          Interesting, I'd also consider bridging dzine into epi and perhaps tren along the way.
           
          and as above, SERM PCT, if not, dont run anything but epi.
           
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            Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 01 February 2012 12:41 (permalink)
            what kind of injury did you have and do you feel fast strength increase was a factor ?
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              Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 01 February 2012 23:04 (permalink)
              The dzine, stano, tren sounds awsome.!!!!!!!
              I vote for that :) 
               
              Otherwise.
              Stano and tren for 6 weeks, with m1T for the last 3 weeks. 
              Nolva pct
               
               
               
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                Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 02 February 2012 10:43 (permalink)
                If its all to do with that list of your stash, and only the stash.... then Ill have to say:
                 
                Epi/Tren/Stano.... and ATD for PCT.
                 
                ^ Strength, some lean gains, and a bit of muscle hardening.
                Its atleast something you can work with mate...

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                  Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 02 February 2012 11:14 (permalink)
                  D-Zine, Tren and Stano stack
                  for me also
                  proper pct needed mind,
                  2 rep max pb's; in kgs

                  Bp 120 now 125.........135kg 18 september 2011
                  deads 130.......165kg 19 september 2011
                  squats 175

                  One day I will be happy with my training........maybe
                   
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                    Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 02 February 2012 11:39 (permalink)
                    I think we're all missing the point... you can only use whats in the stash. Why people keep listing Nolva is a mystery to me...

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                      Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 02 February 2012 11:42 (permalink)
                      Liebow

                      Epi/Tren/Stano.... and ATD for PCT.

                       
                      I would not recommend that, tren can shut you down hard. He can buy some nolva, it's not expensive.
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                        Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 02 February 2012 11:43 (permalink)
                        And also from the OP:
                         
                        Ron Jeremy

                        I will get my hands on NOLVA when I use the Dzine or M1T.

                         
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                          Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 02 February 2012 13:35 (permalink)
                          Yeah whatever.....
                           
                           
                          Sh*t LOL

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                            Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 02 February 2012 21:31 (permalink)
                            Lol, brilliant. Cheers fellas. Interesting that you all chose the Dzine, Tren and Stano option. Its something I've considered. And don't worry, I WILL get some Nolva before I run that! Lol.
                             
                            However, I now have another question about it - I have been cutting and so, what I'd really like best is to continue on maintenance or just under maintenance calories, while looking to keep progressing in strength gains on a fixed strength program.
                            In doing that, I'd hope to recomp at this weight and gain some strength.
                             
                             
                            So... Is the Dzine/tren/stano stack suited to a recomp or cut? I figured it would be better suited to a bulk?
                             
                             
                            Ok, so please let me know what you think of each of these options and then identify your choice:
                             
                            1. Hard cutting. 6 weeks.
                            Tren - 100mg ed, Stano - 600mg ed.
                             
                            2. Recomp. 5 weeks.
                            Dzine - 37.5mg ed, Tren - 100mg ed, Stano - 600mg ed.
                             
                            3. Hard cutting. 6 weeks (Using up what I have...)
                            Wk 1 - Tren 100mg ed
                            Wk 2 - Tren 100mg ed, Stano 600mg ed
                            Wk 3 - Tren 100mg ed, Stano 600mg ed, Epi 30mg ed
                            Wk 4 - Tren 100mg ed, Stano 600mg ed, Epi 30mg ed
                            Wk 5 - Tren 100mg ed, Stano 600mg ed, Epi 30mg ed
                            Wk 6 - Stano 600mg ed.
                            In that I figured Tren would get me going, would stack well with stano and stano would help me bridge to PCT. 3 weeks of epi isn't enough I know, but its all I have and I figured it would be a boost on top of the tren/stano option.
                             
                             
                            Would options 1 or 3 work for subtle size retention and strength gains on a cut? And would option 2 work well on a recomp? Considering it wont involve a bulk, which would you choose?
                             
                             
                            Thanks! Sorry for waffling, but Im liking your ideas and am interested in your opinions on my madness!
                             
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                              Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 03 February 2012 10:53 (permalink)
                              Would not bother with DZine for this run in light of that info.
                               
                              Would grab a bit more Epi and run Epi, Tren and possibly Stano.

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                                Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 06 February 2012 02:32 (permalink)
                                jw390898


                                D-Zine, Tren and Stano stack.

                                SERM PCT though not ATD.

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                                  Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 06 February 2012 15:31 (permalink)
                                  Cheers everyone.
                                   
                                  Well it seems that when I do go for some more mass, Dzine, tren and Stano are the way forwards!!!
                                   
                                  For now, I will continue my cut, and have decided to keep it simple and light, almost like a severe testbooster! Lol.
                                  Im not after anything special while cutting, just a helping hand to harden me up, assist strength and help drop a little fat.
                                   
                                  So I've decided to run:
                                  Tren 100mg ed
                                  Stano 600mg ed
                                  For 5 weeks while cutting.
                                  Followed by a 3-4 week ATD PCT + DAA at 3g ed.
                                  Usual support supps alongside.
                                   
                                   
                                  Plan is:
                                  1. Cut for 5 weeks on cycle
                                  2. maintain through PCT
                                  3. Continue cutting after PCT for 6-10 weeks afterwards
                                  4. Go from depletion when ripped to lean bulk with 5 weeks Dzine, Tren and Stano!
                                   
                                   
                                  What do you think of the current light cycle idea? On a body inexperienced with hormones and steroids, on a proper cut, I was thinking it'd help out?
                                   
                                  Alternatively, I could cut without it, just use ECA etc and then be ready for the lean bulk sooner in about 12 weeks time. I'd be cut and not between cycles and I'd still have tren and stano in stock!!!
                                   
                                  What do you reckon lads? I'm indecisive and need your help! Lol
                                   
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                                    Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 06 February 2012 16:08 (permalink)
                                    Personally I would not spend the £ or use the time up of being on cycle and requireing recovery till being able to run something else for cutting as the results can be achieved with will power where again just imo mass and strength gains are far more restricted by other variables.
                                     
                                    I would cut and be good to go immediately on a proper cycle myself.

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                                      Re:Choices choices!!! Lots in the cupboard, what would you use??? Your choice, my body!!! 06 February 2012 18:57 (permalink)
                                       
                                      looks like a good cut.
                                      thrown in clen/t3/yohimbine/eca/green tea/CLA and itl be prefect
                                      i joke lol........
                                      JW advice is sound on the natural cut followed by lean bulk on cycle.
                                      Id do the same if i had the patience ;-)  
                                      Maz
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