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RE: Clenbuterol
01 December 2005 19:34
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Cheers Fella. On a slightly different point, how do you rate the new supps like melting point compared to clen?
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RE: Clenbuterol
01 December 2005 20:11
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can't say tbh - I've never used that sort of product.
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RE: Clenbuterol
18 December 2005 14:47
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Please read the rules! MuscleTalk is not a place to sell (or buy) illicit substances. Please refrain from such postings
<message edited by PartyBoy on 19 December 2005 08:46>
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RE: Clenbuterol
01 February 2006 00:16
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i have some clen with a sale by date of 09/05 would it be a risk taking now
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RE: Clenbuterol
01 February 2006 01:02
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i dont think there would be much risk mate. i would use now though.
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RE: Clenbuterol
16 February 2006 02:42
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PartyBoy, thank you for creating the complete idiot's guide to clen- when do you have time to party??? I have just bought Novegam (made in mexico)- has anyone heard of it? I didn't see it mentioned any where. Thanks.
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RE: Clenbuterol
16 February 2006 09:24
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My boardname is somewhat ironic. I'm more of a pipe and slippers man in front of a warm fire (hmm, perhaps not the pipe lol). Novegam is a legitamate clen manufacturer in Mexico. Their products are most commonly seen throughout the U.S. rather than europe.
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RE: Clenbuterol
22 February 2006 00:20
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Hello there. I'm new to this forum and I have just ordered some clen. I'm 5'9" and about 127lbs. I can get down to 122lbs. through extreme dieting and work outs but I plateau out once I get to that weight. I would like to go down to 115 lbs. for I'm a model (by profession) and I have to go over to Asia on a long term modeling trip in 2.5 weeks. I know it's a drug and drugs work differently for everyone but can clen help me get down to my goal weight? I really need to lose this last bit of fat. My average comfortable weight is 125lbs. I would be grateful for any help or advice on to do this.
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RE: Clenbuterol
22 February 2006 01:46
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My boardname is somewhat ironic. I'm more of a pipe and slippers man in front of a warm fire (hmm, perhaps not the pipe lol). Ah damn, now I can only picture you with a pipe! Thanks for the reply. I have another question and this may help answer ckim421's question a bit. Though I am definitely not a model or a fitness fanatic and I'm not trying to be a size one- I just wanna look good naked. I find that challenging enough. I've used Clen for almost two weeks now and worked my way up to 80 mcgs. I know that I've worked out hard enough and ate perfect, but I only lost about 2 pounds a week. Which is really what I would have expected to lose without the Clen. My roommate on the other hand- worked out hard but didn't always watch what she ate- on occasion she had ice cream, carmel corn, chocolate crepes . . . She lost about 4 pounds a week. She does have more weight to lose than me- whereas, I'm after that last 10 pounds. I am wondering if it just doesn't work for me. Does it make sense for me to try again after my two weeks off? I am not looking for a miracle- just a little help. Thanks!
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RE: Clenbuterol
22 February 2006 09:23
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Welcome ORIGINAL: ckim421 I know it's a drug and drugs work differently for everyone but can clen help me get down to my goal weight? Clen only provides a small effect tbh. Its 95% diet and cardio, 5% drugs. You will need to stay ultra strict to overcome your bodys resistance to the weight loss. For arguments sake, lets say clen increases calorie expenditure by 5%, on a 2000 cal intake, the drug itself will only be utilizing 100 cals which in itself is practically nothing, but over time can be the difference between a good body and a great body. I think you're expecting far too much tbh to lose 12lb in 2 weeks from a base of only 127lb. If you're lucky you might get a 6lb loss. There may be a temporary fix for instances such as one-off model work which involves carb depletion. This will result in the body loosing water which can give the appearance of relatively rapid weight loss; whilst not fat but water, it is temporary weight loss. Seek further assistance in the diet forum for more info.

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RE: Clenbuterol
22 February 2006 09:32
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ORIGINAL: Seashell I've used Clen for almost two weeks now and worked my way up to 80 mcgs. I know that I've worked out hard enough and ate perfect, but I only lost about 2 pounds a week. That's a good result imo. 2lb - 3lb is a safe rate of loss. As said above, clen will not make a massive difference, just provides a little extra to your efforts. She does have more weight to lose than me- whereas, I'm after that last 10 pounds. The last few pounds are the hardest, and can appear impossible to shift. That's the reason you can see loads of ppl with decent phsiques, but few with really impressive ones. I am wondering if it just doesn't work for me. Does it make sense for me to try again after my two weeks off? I am not looking for a miracle- just a little help. Thanks! Yes it will be "working". Fat loss takes time, with or without drugs. I personally prefer Ephedrine over clen. Although the effect on metabolic rate may be reduced, it body stimulatory and appetite suppressive effects are of greater benefit especially when more exptreme measures are taken to try to lose the last remaining fat.

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RE: Clenbuterol
22 February 2006 14:10
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Thanks PartyBoy, I guess that makes sense. I upped my cardio to almost double, two pounds seemed normal for the effort I was making but I had hit a plateau before that. Sounds like Clen was helping me to slowly continue past the plateau. Cheers!
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RE: Clenbuterol
22 February 2006 16:56
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Hi Partyboy, Thanks for your reply. You say that you prefer ephedra over clen.. Why is that?
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RE: Clenbuterol
06 March 2006 13:14
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Sorry i asked this i another topic, but id like an answer: what is clen effect when mixed with alcohol. Its my birthday in a week and i plan on going out just this once . But i take all my clen dose before i go to bed, should I wait till the next morning to take it and then again on the same night ?
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RE: Clenbuterol
06 March 2006 13:41
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both clen and alcohol will make u dehydrated recommend not to take them both together akthough no doubt u will brink plenty ov water and dnt make it a regular thing
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RE: Clenbuterol
06 March 2006 14:24
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take them both together akthough no doubt u will
POWERHOUSE585 LOL ...... Yeah doing both together is asking for a BANGING headache the next day
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RE: Clenbuterol
06 March 2006 15:21
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So wait till the next mornin to take the clen then? Will I be OK to take it again on the same day, but at night, ie 2 large doses in one day ?
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RE: Clenbuterol
18 March 2006 12:23
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PB, are there any vitamins etc. that intefere with Clen ? I've just started my first 20mg today and will taper up as per the start of this thread but I take BCAA's, Cod Liver oil & a Multivitamin in the morning - Just wondering if this will effect the Clen in anyway. If might be a stupid question but I sooner ask than waste my money
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RE: Clenbuterol
18 March 2006 12:42
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You'll be fine with all those mate
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RE: Clenbuterol
19 March 2006 00:27
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Spotted this cycle on www.steroids.com "You can alternate your Clenbuterol use 1-week on, 1-week off for quite a while without noticing much of a decrease in effectiveness. People I know who follow this schedule recommend following the "alternate week" cycle for 8 weeks and then stopping for 3. (That's actually just skipping 1 week of Clenbuterol use. Because you wouldn't be taking "clen" during "week 8" or "week 10" on the cycle, technically you would only miss "week 9"). So if you're interested in making consistent muscle gains with Clenbuterol, this cycle may prove effective" Not sure how the overall results would compare with the 2 week on/off cycle but certainly your body had less time to recover although you are nearly 1000mg's less of Clen so maybe it balances to a point...... I've decided to do the 1 week on/off for the next 4 weeks and then finish the rest of the cycle 2 weeks on/off. I'm off to Barcelona for Easter weekend and although it won't be that hot I don't want the Clen keeping me warm too!
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