Clenbuterol

I take it that liquid clen is taken in exactly the same way as tablet clen? Sourced some 200mcg per ml stuff so I guess i'm gonna be using 0.1ml for the 1st 20mcg and so on up to 0.7ml for up to 140mcg...

That's correct mate.

Blimey, small dosages - that 60ml will last for ever

bump for party boy

ORIGINAL: Cheshire Cat

Partyboy,

In you opinion, would it be best to take 2-3mg of Ketotifen with the clen, as it will result in less down regulation of the beta receptors, and also mean that less clen has to be taken- meaning less side effects? Or does the Keto also cause side effects at a couple mg ED?

Not sure if that makes sense! Basically, if money was not a concern, in your opinion is it better to take Keto along side a clen cycle to limit side effects and down regulation, or does it not make much noticable differnce either way?

Cheers

I'm interested in this. Will the clen work better indefinatley with Ketotifen and mean the effects are always as good and can be run for a indefinate period or will there still be some down regulation?

I've only used ketotifen once and tbh didn't witness much in the way of differences either way. If I were to use clen again, I'd just run it 2 on 2 wk off.

PB marks out of 10 for clen vs eca assuming diet and training nailed.

I'm currently cutting lost over a stone and a half but seem to have hit a bit of a brick wall at 13st 4lb, been this weight for a couple of weeks now, diet is sorted have posted it elswhere and was actually advised to increase calories. Considering using clen or eca as a standalone not doing 2 weeks of each just 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, also looking at adding in HIIT although haven't made a firm decision on that as worried that i'll go catabolic.

ORIGINAL: Dick Dastardly

PB marks out of 10 for clen vs eca assuming diet and training nailed.

I'm currently cutting lost over a stone and a half but seem to have hit a bit of a brick wall at 13st 4lb, been this weight for a couple of weeks now, diet is sorted have posted it elswhere and was actually advised to increase calories. Considering using clen or eca as a standalone not doing 2 weeks of each just 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, also looking at adding in HIIT although haven't made a firm decision on that as worried that i'll go catabolic.

Can I answer this ??

I rate Clen above ECA -

ECA 3/10

Clen 5/10

Assuming cardio and diet are sorted

Food will help you not to go catabolic...

Eat it every 2 to 3 hrs to help

cheers mick

ORIGINAL: Dick Dastardly

cheers mick

No worries mate...

Good luck

There is another method that I have seen many people using. It is common to use the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off method but use ECA (ephedrine,caffiene,aspirin) during the off weeks. This method is totally pointless and counter productive. The whole point of taking two weeks off is to allow beta receptors to up regulate making Clen effective again. ECA down regulates these receptors (plus hitting a load of others) just like Clen. Therefore the receptors never up regulate and Clen + ECA becomes ineffective.

Came across this whilst doing more research on Clen + ECA and a couple of people stated that you should take the 2 week rest. I did read your article Partyboy about the half life of ECA being shorter so the receptors do have a chance to recover. Just wondering if anyone has gone the ECA/Clen stack and thyve become ineffective? Need to buy both for shread my last bit of fat but i dont wanna waste money. Scared when i read stuff like this and just want some assurance i guess. Just tell me this quote is rubbish and ill hit the buy buttons

There is another method that I have seen many people using. It is common to use the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off method but use ECA (ephedrine,caffiene,aspirin) during the off weeks. This method is totally pointless and counter productive. The whole point of taking two weeks off is to allow beta receptors to up regulate making Clen effective again. ECA down regulates these receptors (plus hitting a load of others) just like Clen. Therefore the receptors never up regulate and Clen + ECA becomes ineffective.

Eca has been shown to be effective taken straight for months. Its mainly the stimulatory (what i consider that bad sides of EPH) that subside after a couple of weeks. Im begining to think this downregulation is a myth.

Do you think I would get enough potassium from my multi vit[ 1mornin, 1night] or would have to supplement?

Just see whether you start to suffer cramping effects.

Just another question.

When I take my dose in the morning should I have it along with all my other tabs [multi vit and fish oils] and wait bout 20mins before I eat or take all the food and tabs at the same time?

Cheers
BSB

WHatever you like is fine.

Ok cool

Cheers

Is it normal for Clen to make me feel really warm? Never had that with eph or t3 to this degree. Not even tren!

ORIGINAL: Papa Lazarou

Is it normal for Clen to make me feel really warm? Never had that with eph or t3 to this degree. Not even tren!

Sure is mate...

Raises your core body temp. IIRC

Aye, so does tren but not like this LOL