Clenbuterol

ORIGINAL: Papa Lazarou

Aye, so does tren but not like this LOL

pmsl

Good stuff IMO

Seems to be - no jitters yet on day 3 and 60mcg...

ORIGINAL: Papa Lazarou

Seems to be - no jitters yet on day 3 and 60mcg...

Let me know how you get on mate...

I'll be going down this route in about 4 - 6 weeks TBH...

Day 4, 4 down me, no jitters and used to it. Not feeling hot. All good

Getting bad calf cramps - what should be taken to counter this? Woke a couple of times in the last couple of days like i'd been kicked in the legs

Just started this today myself, chinese clen in a really small bottle 40mcg each so had to half the first one.

Papa you can take pottasium to help with the cramps also bannana's are good.

not had any of the edgyness i get with eca yet but i suppose its early days.

Papa, have a couple of banana's a day and/or look to suppliment Taurine.

Mick, ECA has a much greater 'wiredness'/'edgyness' than that derived from Clen.

Thats good to know PB, dont really like the edgyness of ECA, at what dose do people generally start to feel hotter, I know its different for most but should I of felt any hotter after 20mcg

I felt really hot on day one but since then i've been ok - its simply just been boiling hot outside instead

Feel sorry for anyone running tren right now LOL

Oh, stuff like sugar free red bull has taurine in it - would that be enough to counter it do you reckon or is it supps all the way? Banana's are too much of a pain to keep fresh you see and to prevent folk nicking them too!

5 seems to be my limit. Which is nice as its cheaper than 7

Not terribly shakey but enough to think I wouldn't wanna be any more shakey than I am LOL

Feels like you are slightly hypo and need food which is weird when you've just eaten

ORIGINAL: Papa Lazarou

Oh, stuff like sugar free red bull has taurine in it - would that be enough to counter it do you reckon or is it supps all the way? Banana's are too much of a pain to keep fresh you see and to prevent folk nicking them too!

Get mine from here mate:

http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powders/amino-acids/taurine/

Not as tasty as red bull tho is it (or Kick or some cheap equivelant!)

ORIGINAL: Papa Lazarou

Not as tasty as red bull tho is it (or Kick or some cheap equivelant!)

It's not mate TBH...

Pop it in some water and neck it

Job Done

im up to 80mcg today only just started to notice sides slight headache (could be unrealted tho as i stare at a monitor all day) but hands are jittery not much tho!

On third day of 20mcg and basically had a headache all the time; no jitters and not really feeling hot, just the head.

Is there anything I can do to reduce this side? Increase potassium/ taurine or start using ibuprofen until the body gets used to it and they subside, should subside once body is used to it?

Not too sore just quite arrgivating!

Cheers
BSB

its my second day so on 40mcg now, took it in split doses fealt really hot this morning and stayed about the same all day, hands had a slight shake this morning similar to what i get of ephedrine, also had a slight dull headache, nothing major though

Headaches are common. Don't increase dose until they subside a little. They will ease off gradually.

This is another reason why I will always opt for Eph over Clen

What do you find you get better results with PB the EPH or Clen

Eph mate.

Mainly due to appetite suppression and thus controllable calorie intake.