Clenbuterol

can u reccomend what types of food must i eat when taking clen

does clen (usual cycle) , or t3 (at low doses like 12.5mcg ED) for that matter affect growth ie stunting etc?
i understand how PHs/AAS do through estrogen but do either of these effect estrogen? or growth in another way?

great info - ta PB and all.

Prob my own ignorance but I couldn't understand a coupla bits in your first post ...

1) beta 2 receptors - why is it bad if they're messed up, what will happen, how would you notice?

2) Later in the post you mention that there may be a problem with not having enough t3 produced. Same questions as in 1) above - but for t3?

Apologies if I've simply mis-read/understood.

S

ORIGINAL: Big Luke

Mine is the same on both sides with english writing, has anyone else used these or know anything about them?

I'd start a new thread to with your specific query bro

 

ORIGINAL: Shaziya

can u reccomend what types of food must i eat when taking clen

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/fb.asp?m=561060

 

ORIGINAL: killuminati04

does clen (usual cycle) , or t3 (at low doses like 12.5mcg ED) for that matter affect growth ie stunting etc?
i understand how PHs/AAS do through estrogen but do either of these effect estrogen? or growth in another way?

No, but I fail to see the need to consider thyroid meds if you are still of an age where stunted growth is an issue.

 

ORIGINAL: Sword

Prob my own ignorance but I couldn't understand a coupla bits in your first post ...

1) beta 2 receptors - why is it bad if they're messed up, what will happen, how would you notice?

They become desensitised quickly bro, effectively rendering continued agonism fruitless.

2) Later in the post you mention that there may be a problem with not having enough t3 produced. Same question as one - but for t3?

Conversion from T3 to T4 is slowed during normal calorie restrictive phases. T3 as we know is responsible for metabolic rate. Therefore, generally lower T3 would indicate a slower metabolic rate. It is one of the body's survival mechasisms designed to help keep us alive during peroids of inadequate food intake. That said, clenbuterol use for the periods we use it is very unlikely to place the user in a state of hypothyroidism - we're only talking relatively small changes in essence.

It was mentioned though as bbers typically like to optimise things - eg diet, training, drug use etc.

 

ive been told clen works faster for men then women is this correct,,,also that it doesnt work unless u take T3

No, neither are true.

 

Good post!

I've tried searching for an answer but haven't found a definitve answer. I've just on my second M1T cycle and have put a bit of fat on, been bulking or a while now so looking much softer than normal!

I'm starting my PCt in a week and was thinking of dropping some clen in there. Am i right in thinking that if I use the original method of 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off, incresing the dosage up to 7 tabs a day, then this will just burn fat?

What result shave people noticed from this? I'm not asking for what I will lose, but what have others lost? just from doing 2 weeks, or should I carry on till I use all 90 tabs??

Hope this makes sense, cheers guys
Lee

ORIGINAL: landerson
Am i right in thinking that if I use the original method of 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off, incresing the dosage up to 7 tabs a day, then this will just burn fat?

Well, it'll increase your calorie expenditure. Whether this results in fat loss depends on whether it places you into (or further into) a calorie negative state. For example, if you were eating everything in sight, it is obvious that you would be in a strong calorie positive state and the increase in calorie expenditure provided by Clen will yield diddly squat.

just from doing 2 weeks, or should I carry on till I use all 90 tabs??

You'll not see much from two weeks bro, just as you wouldn't see much fat loss (relatively speaking) from 2 weeks natural cutting. It requires 2 or 3 two week cycles really as part of your 6-12 week cutting regime tbh

 

Excellent Information Partyboy.

Would it be best for me to complete my sust/Deca cycle i am about to start before starting my clen/ECA cycle... ?

Sorry if its a really stupid question, but my supplier told me to use them at the same time and i just wanted to get some advice from someone on this forum who obviously knows there stuff ...

i have just recived another batch of clen.. the box is different to the one i had.. its a white box with a blue line on the side.. its says nihfi bulgaria 0.02mg.. its in english and also there is a leaflet in the box which is written in english.. im a bit worried because the box i had b4 was in a russian language.. has anyone used these??

hello! im 21 female ive been using clen now 4 a week and a half just want 2loose a bit of weight. i thought ill share my news with you.. ive lost 7 lbs.. im now 9stones and 3lbs got a long way 2go yet but happy with the results im getting.

Shaziya,
The clen you describe sounds exactly like the ones i have at the moment. I have'nt tried them yet but i have heard from various people they are real.

Check out the thread i posted about mine called...REAL BULGARIAN CLEN.
Also try to post pics of the box, tab strips, and the leaflet so i can confirm they are the same as mine.

can some one please explain this to me! im a new user to clen in my first wk i lost loads of weight.. and now on my third week running i dont get any side effects and ive just lost a pound. Has it stopped working for me

2 weeks or 90 tabs wnt help you much mate
i suggest a 3 mnth long cutting cycle using clen 2 on 2 off
diet is the key also here

Is it OK to combine Clen/ECA with Carb Cycling?

Yes

 

partyboy is there a way i can email you as your link is auto responding problems with your account, just a query mate, thanks

Anabolic Steroid Science Is Now
- Muscle Labs -

received and replied bro. Still on hols atm but found an internet cafe for 1hr

 

hi guys... got some clen a while ago and was keeping half an eye out for taurine and pottassium, found some in h&b yesterday. im going on a cycling holiday soon so figurewd this would be a good time to use it, anyway, the taurine is 500mg a cap and the pott is 99mg a cap.

how many of these should i be taking a day?

Also, i was thinking of taking at bedtime to dodge most of the sides, i read in a couple of places thios was good, any experiences?

Well the H&B caps wont last you long at minimum dose of 3g per day, there is a good website that sells taurine by the bag or in a tub and it works out much cheaper.

As for clen before bed there are 2 schools of thought, but taking into consideration that clen has a half life of about 35 hours i doubt before bed will make much diff on the sides, it may reduce them though as i believe blood levels are highest in the 3 to 4 hours after taking the dose. But from what i have seen some people get sides some dont, until you reach the plus 100mcg mark then most experience some effects. If like me even ec stops you sleeping well then i wouldnt advise takin it after 5pm...its all down to personal experience though, you will learn from your first cycle and then be able to gauge how ur body responds in time for your next cycle...

Clen vs. clen+excercise produce roughly the same results for the first 2 weeks!

I havent had much time to train lately, i work 9am to 10pm most days, so is this statement correct? Is there point in taking clen and not doing exercise? Will i loose any fat if i dont exercise?

I have a moderately good diet, i only eat clean foods 4-5 times a day, carbs are under 100g, i get around 200g protein a day. Average calorie intake is around 1500-2000 daily.

Thanks, im just looking for something i can take to keep the fat loss going.

Currently doing an ECA stack as well.

Very helpful, as first time I will be using Clen

No reason why not.

 

PartyBoy, would you recommend taking a methabolic accelerator with the clen/ECA cycle?

I don't recommend anything! All I can say is that meds such as T3/T4 compliment clen/eca for a very potent fat loss stack. However, using thyroid meds such as these requires great thought due to possible adverse effects.

 

Ive got some clen made by L.A pharma s.r.l, Any good?

Personally not come across that brand - looks like could be Italian.

 

Is it ok to do just 4 a day instead of 7? the sides for me on 4 is enough I think, dont really wanna go higher (heart beating faster, bit of the shakes & cramp sometimes) This OK?

80mcg is fine mate

Sweet, thanks!

I've come across some tabs of clen that are 200mcg...anyone seen these before? They're significantly smaller than my 20mcg tabs, which is confusing. I plan on cutting them up and taking 3/4 of a tab (150mcgs) at my peak. But, never heard of 200mcg tabs before.

My buddy told me that usually a 20mcg tab has a lot of filler, and that these smaller pills are just a higher concentration. He's using them right now and assured me that they are great. (he does seem to have dropped in weight)

Any of you guys seen 200mcg tabs?

Not seen any personally, though you are correct in that you can't judge the concentration of a pill based on size due to fillers. 200mcg tabs sound inconvienient imho.

 

oh my god no. they're not convenient at all....even at my peak I'll have to cut the pills. Not to mention if you were starting out at 20mcg you'd need to cut this small pill into TENTHS! It's not practical at all.

But they were not very expensive for just that reason.

MuscleTalk is not a place to sell (or buy) illicit substances. Please refrain from such postings.

PartyBoy, I have carefully read through your article and have to say it is very informative.
I have a genuine question for you, if you don't mind. I am thinking about going on a clen/ECA cycle 2 weeks on/off with the recommended dosage. The only thing I am wondering about is wether I will be able to keep my breast size or are they going to shrink and look funny at the end of the cycle? At the moment they are quite large 34FF. I have been training for 3 years and it has not made any difference in my cup size but obviously it made a huge difference in my body shape. I have never taken anything before except Ephedrine. Do I have anything to worry about or shall I just go for it?
(Please do not joke, it was a serious question. Thank you.)

Breasts contain fatty tissue as well as breast tissue. Anything that you do to change your bodyweight (in terms of %BF) may therefore affect breast size.

Clenbuterol will not in itself decrease the size of breasts, though the effects it has on calorie expenditure (and thus hopefully creating a decent calorie deficit together with diet /cardio etc) can lead to some loss in overall size.

 

Thank you.