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Cutting cycle advice
30 January 2012 14:19
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Going to be starting a cut very soon, and want to see some drastic changes to my physique. I'm looking to run an epi-based cutting cycle (I have a pot), but am after some input as to what to stack it with (if anything). I've drafted up at 2250 cal diet which covers my nutritional bases, provides ample protein and saves carbs for breakfast and post workout. I'm currently 105kg/231lbs @ 5'10'' which is pretty heavy in my books, but my lifts are fairly solid, so there is a good bit of muscle under the fat. My main concern is that I lose muscle and strength whilst cutting hard, I'm aware that I'll lose strength but want something to at least maintain what I've got, mostly for moral really; I hate getting weaker. I've got a pot of epi (dragons), and am looking to run a 6-week or so cycle. I've ran quite a few cycles in the past, so stacking and moderate doses are fine. I'm tempted to run epi @ 40mg ED alongside 500mg 11-keto (dragons) for fat burning effects. What do people think of this? Is 500mg enough? I don't want to go higher because of the cost of the stuff. I'm also tempted by epi and hdrol, although would 2 methyls be pushing it a bit? I'm not sold on epi and tren because of the potential for gyno from tren.... Advice much appreciated!
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Re:Cutting cycle advice
02 February 2012 12:08
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Hi mate, I'm pretty new to PH but have a lot of experience in aas, am running a cut myself in a couple of weeks. I'm doing Pro-One by dragon I think that product could compliment what you want to achive. I don't think you need to worry about gyno from Tren as it does not aromatise. You may want to re-think the use of any so called "wet compounds" (this will simply cover your muscles with water, great for strengh, not so good for cutting). regards
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Re:Cutting cycle advice
02 February 2012 12:32
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H-Drol + 11oxo would be nice, as would EPI + 11oxo 600mg a day with the 11oxo is a lovely dose. You could add in Tren and then do an 11oxo bridge.... But the previous 2 cycles mentioned would be nice.
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Re:Cutting cycle advice
02 February 2012 13:51
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Pro-One, Pro-Tren + Pro-Halo? Would help hold onto the muscle while your in a calorie deficit?
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Re:Cutting cycle advice
02 February 2012 16:53
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Epi and Tren - Tren makes a big difference to strength.
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Re:Cutting cycle advice
02 February 2012 20:32
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Thanks for the replies guys, all this talk of tren has got me wishing I'd got some now! Although I swear I've heard of rebound gyno in some people after coming off it? I've managed to get hold of enough 6-oxo to run 625mg's a day without breaking the bank too much. I hope that at this dosage I'll see some nice effects. What do you think of the addition of tren to such a cycle - or would it be overkill? And if yes, what dosage? I'll be running epi at 40mg ED.
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Re:Cutting cycle advice
02 February 2012 20:38
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lots of great choices above, for a single compound cycle 'one' would definitely be my choice for a stack either hdrol or epi with 11oxo. most people have a preference when it comes to epi and hdrol (hdrol for me as i find it easier to manage BP than dry joints)
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Re:Cutting cycle advice
04 February 2012 12:22
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^ Agree with above. If you're looking for more of a recomp, Epi Tren is a great stack. Tren does give gyno issues to some (although I didnt have any problems).
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Re:Cutting cycle advice
05 February 2012 14:10
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I run tren-epi-stano and I got a (light) gyno rebound after PCT.. nolva+AI post PCT did the job for me. despite that was a great cycle, suggested. don't forget that if you cut, diet is 90% of the game.
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