Cycle Built!

Greetings all.
 
I'm starting to look at planning a new cycle and it goes without saying that I'd go with Dragon but there are several new products out that I've done a bit of reading about but don't know too well. I'll obviously continue to read and then do some more extensive research on the products I finally choose.
 
History
Chap Labs: Epi - Did nothing for me, even at 60mg...
Dragon: Dzine, Tren, Stano - Got massive, got stronger, got out of breath easily. Great cycle.
Dragon: Stano, The One - Not sure why I did this, think I just wanted to see how it went while on a cut. Didn't go so well but can't be bothered to go into it.
 
Now I've changed my approach to training recently and size is not important to me. I'm going for functional strength; all I do now is lift as heavy as I can 1-3 reps for 10-15 sets (Chaos and Pain style) and I've started utilizing lockouts and partials etc too (I do some assistance stuff that obviously uses a different rep range).
 
Basically my ideal cycle will be something that I can stay on for a while (at least 8 weeks) with good strength increases. Size as a side effect of strength isn't a problem, I just don't want something that's going to bloat me right up again like the Dzine did although it was a lot of fun at the time! I would like to try and keep my libido intact too if possible (I ask a lot I know )!
 
My initial thoughts are maybe Tren and Halo and using 11-Keto to bridge into PCT...
 
All advice is much appreciated, let the games begin!

EnfantTerrible


My initial thoughts are maybe Tren and Halo and using 11-Keto to bridge into PCT...

 
hdrol/tren came to mind straight away, how did you find tren was on libido last time ?

My libido was pretty shot but I think the Dzine could have played a large part in that. I need to do more reading on the 11-keto but is it worth using as a bridge or on cycle or not worth bothering with?

Even if choosing less 'harsh' compounds I am not sure 8 weeks and beyond is a good idea with a meth oral.
 
H-Drol and Tren would seem a nice stack for what I would personally recommend a 6 week cycle of.
 
How you do you plan to bridge the 11-Keto into PCT?

jw390898


Even if choosing less 'harsh' compounds I am not sure 8 weeks and beyond is a good idea with a meth oral.

 
Agree.
 
Once your requirements are for longer cycles it might be worth considering 'safer' options. Other considerations aside (availability/stigma etc), perhaps think about a base injectable to facilitate a much shorter oral exposure.

HOw about SD/Stano ( if you can find it )
 
Or 4 week M1T - 15/15/20/20 - id do 

Appreciate all the advice so far.

How does this sound: H-Drol and Tren for 6 weeks then 2 or 3 weeks of 11-Keto at 400mg before PCT? I'm not fully familiar with the concept of bridging so advice welcome.

Partyboy: Will definitely consider a base injectable for the future and pretty sure I can get a source through rugby but not entirely comfortable with the thought of injecting myself... yet.

Agree with the injectable suggestions,a reasonable dose test cycle (500mg/week) for 12weeks would be ideal.

For the results you suggest I'd consider mestanalone or a prohormone that converts to it; dragon used to do pro one I think, not sure if they still do. It's basically methylated dht, awesome for strength and not likely to add bulk unless you stack the calories too heavily.

^ don't remember this one - interested to see what dragon comes back with..........

Just bought 3 bottles of Hero pmag because they were only £12.99 each and as far as I'm aware pmag is very similar to H-Drol although maybe more suited to bulking. The gains are dry though so it might be suitable for what I'm looking for. I would probably run it at 75 to 100mg for 6 weeks but still not sure whether I want to use it as my next cycle or keep it for a future one.
 
Celt: Dragon still do Pro-One; I could always stack this with the pmag. I want to stack Tren but I might leave it out this cycle and save my libido a little.
 
Too many choices!!

I stacked PMAG and Pro-one and it was a smooth and steady cycle. No sides other then back pumps from the pmag.

How bad were the back pumps? My D-Zine back pumps were horrendous, no way I could have played rugby on them.
 
Spent the morning reading about the SARM Ostarine... Something else to consider before making my decision!

Mine was pretty painful, I guess most back pumps are as I got them from EPI too.
 
Taurine helped, as did upping my water.

One thing that really interests me with Ostarine is the supposed benefits for joints and tendons. I'm devouring reading material at the moment.

EnfantTerrible


One thing that really interests me with Ostarine is the supposed benefits for joints and tendons. I'm devouring reading material at the moment.

Never appeared to benefit my rat but I know a researcher who found this to really help his.

Did your rat have sore joints? Mine sometimes gets tendonitis in his elbows and has a sore rotator cuff from when he used to play rugby with his little rat mates. Would be interesting to see if this helps him... maybe with PCT and beyond for a few weeks...

jw390898


^ don't remember this one - interested to see what dragon comes back with..........

 
pro-one,my clone of 'the one'
 
been around a while,its quite popular as it goes.
 
nice and mild.
 
still in stock.
 
makes up the hard body,and shredded stack in place of pro-stano.

^ yes remember now - oh well provided you a nice plug opportunity :-)

jw390898


^ yes remember now - oh well provided you a nice plug opportunity :-)

 
cheques in the post,any other questions:)

Does anyone have any opinions/advice on using Ostarine for my rat's PCT? Done a lot of reading and it seems like it could be a good idea. Thinking of ordering it today...
 
Based on what I've read he'd do 25mg a day for the first two weeks and then 12.5mg a day for a further 4 weeks. Maybe taper down to 5mg a day for a couple of weeks after that. A standard Nolva PCT will be run alongside to begin with.