DELTA-2 (non methyl Phera)

This looks a very very interesting compound.
Lads have done a few logs and got bloodwork back no raised liver values atall, with gains of 8-12 pounds.
Hero supps are selling it at 24.99 a bottle, im probably going to buy 3 and run it at 500mg for 6 weeks.
Will either start a log here or write a final review on it. 
 
What are peoples thoughts on this, im pretty excited as its not a 17aa methyl, and want to give my liver a break really.
 
Maz x

This is what they say, an interesting and exciting read...
 
AndroGenetX has introduced a state of the art alternative to DHEA and other legal prohormones. We are proud to introduce Delta-2 (D-2).  D-2 is in a category of its own, it is both a Natural Anabolic Substance (NAS) and a metabolite of DHEA.  D-2 is found naturally as a pheromone in commonly eaten animal meats and is also a natural metabolite of DHEA.(1,2,3,4)  D-2’s chemical structure is representative of a compound with the benefits of a prohormone. D-2 provides these benefits without common negative side effects such as liver toxicity, androgenic side effects, or estrogen and Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) conversion.
Delta-2’s structural research displays increased nitrogen retention, skeletal muscle, bone density, and protein synthesis to a greater extent than the naturally occurring male hormone, testosterone.(5)  D-2 produces these health benefits over testosterone while having less androgenic affects.(5) Delta-2 is extremely unique because it produces the benefits listed above without being structurally related to testosterone.
Delta-2 consists of the naturally occurring pheromone/DHEA metabolite Delta-2-Androst-17-one (963-75-7).  This compound is accompanied by Naringin Flavonoids for their strong anti-oxidant properties and to promote maximum intestinal absorption of Delta-2.
 
FAQ’s:
Q: Is Delta-2 a steroid?
A: Delta-2 is steroidal in nature but is not an anabolic androgenic steroid because it is not structurally related to Testosterone.  Steroids such as phyto-steroids/sterols, pheromones, cholesterol, and corticosteroids are commonly used as food additives, cosmetics, nutritional supplements, and OTC medications.  Although steroids have been demonized by the media, scientifically speaking there are many useful and healthful types of steroids available to the public.
 
Q: How old do I have to be to use Delta-2?
A: Because Delta-2 is steroidal in nature and may interfere with the body’s natural production of hormones, just as any other steroidal supplement or food with high concentrations of phyto-steroids (i.e. Soy products or DHEA); Delta-2 should not be used by any male under the age of 25, once full endocrine maturity has been reached.
 
Q: I am an athlete can I use Delta-2?
A: No! Delta-2 is not for use by anybody subject to performance enhancing drug tests.  Although Delta-2 is not specifically banned by WADA, NCAA, or any major sports association, metabolites of Delta-2 are likely to cause false positive drug tests.
 
Q: How long should I take Delta-2 for?
A: Delta-2 should be taken for a minimum of 4 and maximum of 6 weeks to see optimal results.
 
Q: Do I need Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) for Delta-2?
A: It is recommended to follow your 4-6 week cycle of Delta-2 with 4 weeks of AndroGenetX NatraSterone or any PCT product to help promote normal hormonal levels.
 


 

Maztrikz


This looks a very very interesting compound.
Lads have done a few logs and got bloodwork back no raised liver values atall, with gains of 8-12 pounds.
Hero supps are selling it at 24.99 a bottle, im probably going to buy 3 and run it at 500mg for 6 weeks.
Will either start a log here or write a final review on it. 

What are peoples thoughts on this, im pretty excited as its not a 17aa methyl, and want to give my liver a break really.

Maz x

Can you show me some bloodwork? Predator is also carrying a Delta2 product but it is made by Fusion. Were your mates running predators? 

Looks interesting from what i have read, however predator describe it as a dry compound, but isnt phera plex a wet prohormone.
 
How supressive would delta2 be?
 
Any recommendations on cycle, pct etc??
 
Or is this just another non meth compound that yields little gains in the real world.
 
Maybe Henry might drop in with some knowledge.........

Neither phera nor delta-2 aromatise. 500mg/day is a good ball-park figure.

http://www.leanbulk.com/f...elta-2-blood-work.html
 
Some blood work done by a logger.
 
Its originally done by adrogenx, who are selling there stuff at hero.
Im not aware of any other brands, possibly been cloned already?
 
Maz

i was told that 400-500 is a good dose that shows good gains 
Min 4 weeks 
Max 6
 
 
 
Maz

isnt this the same as the old 3-ad?

Be interesting to hear some proper feedback on this stuff... But is there any?

Dragon nutrition
isnt this the same as the old 3-ad?

3-AD was a stack of esterified, unmethylated phera and androsterone. It was also dosed way too low imo.

well il be buying 3 bottles, and running 500mg for 6 weeks
probably stacked with dragons pro-tren
 
il write a review after its done 
 
maz

i have acess to the raws for this,so if it proves popular you will be seeing a dragon nutrition clone!

Maztrikz
well il be buying 3 bottles, and running 500mg for 6 weeks
probably stacked with dragons pro-tren

il write a review after its done 

maz

I'll be interested in the results.

yeah me to pretty excited.
il post results on here il do a week by week log, cant really do a day by day one as ive got uni work to do aswell as well as training.
its getting released june 1st on heros website.
 
maz

Dragon nutrition

i have acess to the raws for this,so if it proves popular you will be seeing a dragon nutrition clone!

 
True Dragon style!

Maztrikz

http://www.leanbulk.com/f...elta-2-blood-work.html

Some blood work done by a logger.

Its originally done by adrogenx, who are selling there stuff at hero.
Im not aware of any other brands, possibly been cloned already?

Maz

 
Yup AndrogenetX first released it in the US and Fusion have cloned it with 53mg caps lol.
 

Maztrikz

well il be buying 3 bottles, and running 500mg for 6 weeks
probably stacked with dragons pro-tren

il write a review after its done 

maz

 
Sounds good man!

yeah 53mg seems abit underdosed.
looking forward to dragons if results are good for delta-2.
i might put a pre-order in tonight :) 
(il have to check funds lol) 
 
maz

Maztrikz
yeah 53mg seems abit underdosed.

But you get 90 caps instead of the 60 you get with the AndrogenetX clone.
The price is virtually identical per gram (£4.16 vs £4.19).

henryv

But you get 90 caps instead of the 60 you get with the AndrogenetX clone.
The price is virtually identical per gram (£4.16 vs £4.19).

 
AndrogenetX 6g active / £4.16 per gram / Verified for purity by two separate, unaffiliated laboratories / Original product.

Fusion 4.77g active / £4.19 per gram.
 
I know which one I would go for.

HeroSupplements
AndrogenetX Original product.

Neither of them invented the compound. I wasn't trying to dissuade people from the product you're stocking; lets let people make their own choice.

What type of cycles would this be run in then? I understand the advised doses in terms of the actual compound... But with it's apparent 'mildness' what kind of support supps (if any) and PCT are we looking at?