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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 23 October 2008 16:43
DELTS

Standing BB Press: 67.5 for 3x6..... upped the weight for good, strict 6s (right down to my neck, no leg drive). 
Plate Machine Press: 55+ bar for 3x12 w/60 secs rest..... more reps up on last week than this log implies, 3 reps I think, go for 60 next week.
Wide Grip Upright Row: 37.5 for 3x10 w/30 secs rest..... upped the weight, did 10s easier than I thought and with a short rest

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Close Grip Bench: 105 for 8, 8, 7..... first 2 sets were good, was gone on the last tho.... shame as I was hopeful for all 8s, still nicely up tho 
Dips: Bodyweight + 30kg for 3x12 w/60 secs rest..... good progress after stauling last week, be looking to up the weight next week, 35 me thinks 

Shrugs: 145 for 3x10..... up but again, pretty comfy stuff 

Usual roller and stretch to close.

Much better session this week (and I played a tough non-stop hour of 3on3 BBall last night - which I was on fire for incidently ). I'll be looking for the same again next week and some heavier weights.
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 23 October 2008 16:55
good solid session again fella!!
good dips and CGBP especially.. interms of when its time to up the weight, say on cgbp, wat do u need to achieve first? all sets @ 8 reps??
cos by the looks of things, u should be good for 8 @ 110 in ur first set at least i reckon mate!

i dont know what it is but ive never ever gotten into basketball.. a few of my good mates did at school, and i wanted to,  but all i wanted to do was shoot.. hence why i am actually a pretty decent free throw shooter!! haha


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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 23 October 2008 17:06
As far as upping the weight goes - yeah, I have to complete all sets for my max rep target before I up it. For my primary compound I target myself 6-8 reps and for all supp stuff I go for 8-12 (DLs being my exception where I'll only ever do triples, just depends how easy it goes up - oo-er mrs)

Next week will be a lower volume push week, which may allow for a heavier weight for a single or double so we'll see where I am then.

I used to be pretty useful at BBall, about 18 years ago and 5-6st lighter LOL. Only started playing again a year ago with a group who play at my work, I still have some decent basic skill but the speed and agility has gone as has much of the instinctive part of the playing. But can hold my own with this group (unless i have to D up the 6'6+ guys as no-one else is close enough height or weight wise )
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 23 October 2008 17:20
haha.. i know wat u mean!!
nah it was all cricket for me til about 19... and badminton til i was about 14.. ( i know). just never got into it! played th eusual sports too like footie and rugby!

 so ur gonn a have a heavy day next wk then? is this somethin ur gonna do every so often just t see where ur top end strength is?

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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 23 October 2008 17:43
As bizarre as it sounds, it's to give myself a break. While the load may ultimately be heavier the overall volume lifted is lighter.

For example: 100kg for 8 reps, 3 times comes to a total weight lifted of - 2400kg. Whereas 100 for 3, 110 for 3 and then 120 for 3 is a total of 1290kg. So while I do get to see my strength a little, it is far from an actual concern.

Last year I went lighter for higher reps, this year I'm trying slightly heavier (not OTT) for lower reps. And last year I did it for 1 workout each week, this year I do it for every push or pull based workout within the same week and do that every 3 weeks (so each 'group' has a 6 week rotation - next week pushing, 3 weeks after that it's pulling's turn and so on).

Confused...? I am LOL
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 24 October 2008 12:42
BACK

Chin ups: bodyweight +5kg for 3x8..... got all 8s this week, last set was tough but still worth going up next week I reckon 
Barbell Bent over rows: 75 for 3x10 w/60 secs rest..... snuck an extra 5 on, 10s were good, maybe a little body sway on the last 2 reps 
Seated V Bar Rows: 87.5 for 10, 9, 9 w/60 secs rest..... reps up, hard work tho.

Deadlift: 180 for 3x3..... solid sets again here, may look to put an extra 2.5 on maybe 

Alternate Hammer Curls: 17.5s for 3x8..... went for more weight, was feeling brave, tough but decent sets 

Finished with the usual stretching and roller work.

A good session today, everything went smoothly.

Quite impressed with a lad down there today, not much too him but into his MMA, did OH squats, sumo, deep, and I mean DEEP single leg squats with 15kg and dips off olympic rings - nothing like making things hard work for yourself.

Not so impressed with some lad asking me about supplements and where to get them - all innocently I assumed he meant protein etc but no.... "I want dianabol". Only been at JJB for 3 weeks - bloody fools.
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 24 October 2008 12:49
Off course its time to put 2.5kg on lol!
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 24 October 2008 12:53
 haha..
we had this a while back at the uni gym..this lad came up to me and my mate, and he said.' my mate reckons u lot r on anavar.. can u get  me some..??'!! eh??
they have olympic rings at the gym? cool..OH squats are a killer.. v hard indeed!!

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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 24 October 2008 12:57
Alright, iain, you've twisted my arm..... assuming I remember by next week

The guy with the rings had brough them in himself, they were just on an adjustable strap he slung over the power cage. I can't OH squat with just a broom handle FFS - so did you sort them out then??? LOL - I nearly dug out some antihistemines from my gym bag, £20 for a weeks worth mwahahaha 
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 24 October 2008 15:39

You finally have mail mate LOL :)
 
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 24 October 2008 15:47
So in the space of a week I'm a cu'nt and I'm old..... wish you'd not bothered now LOL
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 24 October 2008 15:53
haha...
u 2 havin a few problems...? ;-)

we just kinda looked at him and were like... a) its a bit specific sayin we think ur on anavar, and b) NO.!! f*ck off!!

i think he understood!!
yeah i cant do OH squats for sh1t... makes olympic lifters all the more impressive i think when they do heavy snatches!! crazy stuff!!

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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 24 October 2008 15:57

u 2 havin a few problems


He goes away, doesn't call or write to tell me he's ok then when he gets back it's all abuse.....
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 24 October 2008 16:12
ive heard hes been out of the country too!!
its just selfish i tell ya!! ;-)lol

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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 27 October 2008 16:21
Low volume week again this week, pushiong days this time so that's today and thurs. Still heavy in weight (heavier in fact) but right down on reps.

CHEST

Bench Press: 110x3, 115x3, 120x3, 125x3 w/90 secs rest..... think I did a last 125, can'r remember. All easy for 3s anyway. 
Incline Press, DBs: 40s for 3x8 w/60 secs rest..... as the previous sets were easy, this was no challenge either 
Dips: BW+15 for 3x7 w/60 secs rest..... 5kg up, roughly half teh reps, easy enough.

BICEPS 

EZ Bar Curls: 40, 45, 45 for 3, 3, 3 w/60 secs rest..... went thru the motions, 5kg up in teh end. 
Laying Cable Curls: 42.5 for 3x4 w/30 secs rest..... ditto here, fairly straight forward 

Usual roller and stretching work to close.

Used the gym roller so got a better roll today, mine is close to useless now TBH. Good session, easier than I had expected but that's no bad thing. Also I am in my 5th week so things should be hitting peak by now
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 27 October 2008 16:43
good benchin fella!! looks good mate!!

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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 27 October 2008 16:51
It was odd, benching usually FEELS heavy to me, no matter what I do or lift, but it was like nothing today - maybe I need to push myself more
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 27 October 2008 17:00
oh, yes..... 15'11 so another 2lbs up. Best part of a stone and just started wk5
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 27 October 2008 17:07
all seems to be goin well mate!!

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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 27 October 2008 17:26
It seems to be..... will probably be out of my axio sustaplex this week so onto pharma enan..... EOD jabs are not going to be that practical (the old 'family' line again) so I'm trying to decide still whether I go 500mg E4D (giving 1500mg over 12 days) or E5D (giving 1500mg over 15 days) as a compromise for my 750mg pw dosing. Been humming and harring on that for months now LOL
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 27 October 2008 17:49
500mg every 4 days mate!!! :-) haha.. t be honest i wouldnt know.. were u runnin the sust at 750? can u not just shoot a larger amount in one?? i.e. 375mg twice a week? i know it may complicate things a bit, but im sure u'd be fine wouldnt ya?

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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 27 October 2008 17:55
That's what I've been doing (the axio suat is 375mg/ml.... perfect) but now it'll be 250mg amps. The ideal of 250mg EOD (M/W/F) doesn't really fit my environment too ideally - not impossible but I can't see the difference been that noticable either and doubling up my shots over a larger spread is soooooo much more pratical for me.
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 27 October 2008 20:57
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u 2 havin a few problems


He goes away, doesn't call or write to tell me he's ok then when he gets back it's all abuse.....


I'll make it upto you at the weekend you big hunk of love muscle LOL :)
 
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 27 October 2008 20:58
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That's what I've been doing (the axio suat is 375mg/ml.... perfect) but now it'll be 250mg amps. The ideal of 250mg EOD (M/W/F) doesn't really fit my environment too ideally - not impossible but I can't see the difference been that noticable either and doubling up my shots over a larger spread is soooooo much more pratical for me.


The axio sust is 325mg / 1ml..

anyways.. ideally E3D is good enough for the test eth mate - this will produce the most stable blood levels for you :)
 
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 27 October 2008 21:06
oh no, I've been doing 50mg a week less than I thought!!! dammit..... I might be able to work with a shot E3D - in fact (thinking as I type) I could easily go from there to a 2 shots of 500pw if and when I need to up the dose.

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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 27 October 2008 21:18
well uve been growin quite nicely off it mate, so maybe the slight increase in dosage that u will be makin with the switch to the eth will yield a slight increase in rate of gains..?? we shall see..


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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 28 October 2008 10:25
182.5kg on the deadlift this week aka 400lbs.
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 28 October 2008 16:40
LEGS

Front Squats:
112.5 for 3x6..... upped the weight again (3 weeks running now LOL), tough sets but solid 6s none the less
Leg Presses: 230 for 3x9 w/60 secs rest..... rep a set up, easier than I thought too
Stiff Leg DL: 177.5 for 3x6..... went for an extra 2.5 here too. Altho I nailed it for solid 6s, I sure as hell knew about it
Pull Thrus: 75 for 3x12 w/30 secs rest..... jumped the reps up for 12 (from 10), piss easy. Good sets altho I was gasping a bit at the end, 30secs aint long recovery on these 

Calf Raises: 155 for 3x15 w/30 secs rest..... good weight jump yet still got all my reps, just but I did get them
Seated Calf: 67.5 for 15, 14, 12 w/60 secs rest..... 2.5 extra here too, good sets, hard work tho

Usual stretching and roller work afterwards.

Good session today, altho i think I dragged the time out a bit. Some solid weight increases and still got all my reps. Might be wise to avoid temptation of going up again next week unless I can get more reps.
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 28 October 2008 21:11
Forgot to say... found out today that the bars here at JJB are thicker than regulation. Not that I'm part of any body to which this is a factor but I had wondered if I was lifting on bars that were 'not fair' originally. Now I feel I am being robbed a few KG cos there is no mistaking that heavy work is not made easier when you have a thicker grip to contend with.... still, just means I'll have to make sure my grip gets better I guess
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 28 October 2008 21:14
Quick one for you mate, why no pharma gear?
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 28 October 2008 21:23
There is, shed loads of iranian enan ready to go, but I had a spare axio sust sitting in my box so figured what the hell - it goes against my usual stance but there was no point wasting it as it was the last of the good batch
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 28 October 2008 21:28
Rather you than me mate, i dont like sust even though i have to use it for my TRT. Stuff hurts like hell for me. Cambridge stuff to me results wise is no different than the iranian, bar the pain. Used up the 6 amps i was given for my 3 months and about to pick up some more as im off cycle as of next week

Cute pic of Zach btw. When you going to DiggerLand?

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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 28 October 2008 21:33
The axio sust has zero pain, nothing, been really impressed with it too considering the time on it, just a shame it's great feedback on a now defunct batch (I'm still trying to blag my way into the Organon labs here tho LOL)

You only running HRT dose yeah? or are you planning a 'proper' (for want of a better term) cycle?

We've asked around about Diggerland and will definately do it but when he's older as at 3 he can't get to actually control anything which will result in tantrum after tantrum LOL
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 28 October 2008 21:37
Im on HRT prescribed by the NHS mate, so after the cycle (was 500mg of Test E) i just drop back to HRT in a week or so to let the sust build up in my system and let the Enth die down

I really dont like being on cycle mate, was an experience i tell you and cant argue with the results but i dont think ill be running test again. Perhaps if my experience wasnt that bad then it may have changed, but it was more bad than good for me

Still 100kg at fairly lean BF aint nowt to sneeze at, it will go down soon though once i start fighting again

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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 28 October 2008 21:49
What was bad about it for you?
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 28 October 2008 21:56
Emotional amplification, whoever says roid rage is a myth is talking bollocks. I had some days where the confidence/arrogance was totally out of control and i had a very big anger issue a few times where i practically wanted to square up to the next person who ever so slightly annoyed me and knock thier head off. i controlled it just fine though. Had one guy knock into me on the tube and i balled my fists up so tight i made one of my hands bleed as i had slightly long nails

Gyno - controlled by adex

Weak tendons/Ligaments/delayed healing of them

Torn my rotator cuff because my connective tissues werent storng enough to cope

Sex drive is infookingsane

Massive water retention which proviron did naff all for (had to homebrew some liquid Adex as i got caught short), also due to this high blood pressure

Acne

Having to eat so much food to fuel the growth made me feel ill. Being bloated and sluggish isnt a nice feeling for me.

Just the whole picture that comes with usage doesnt really suit me if im honest. I decided to use in a aim to gain some lean tissue quick so i could relax a little and stay leaner easier. It was a big mistake which i have learned from. Im not cut out for this game and i realise that

It was great when i first started, but as time went on the sheen wore off if that makes sense. I may just be sensitive as i seem to be with most things supplement wise, so gear may just be the same for me

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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 28 October 2008 22:06
And you suffer no adverse effects from your HRT? i know the dose would be lower but does that present any issues at all?

I have never had any abger issues with any course I have run, no worse than a slightly short on patience but that's it.....I tend to get itchy nips in a heart beat and adex has been great for me so far too..... I don't notice any changes myself regarding injuries (no more than usual ), however, I also avoid going too heavy when on as the risk is there.... sex drive has taken a kick this time round for me, quicker than usual, but that's cool so long as the mrs is willing LOL..... adex has me sorted on the water and I've never been a big acne sufferer, the odd one maybe...... I don't go mad on the food now, I make the most of the AAS making lean gaining that bit easier.

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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 28 October 2008 22:13
Oh i notice TRT dose mate, but what i notice is a reversal of symptomatic issues associated with low endogenous test levels.

Its a bummer yes but ill be real, i enjoy being lean and fast as fcuk and uber cardio vascularly fit so i may end up being a shredded 13 stone at 6 ft lol

It works for loads of people, no knocking it, but for me i think there are better options. Im doing something drastic after the new year that may make people start scratching their head......im giving up weight trianing

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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 28 October 2008 22:24
fcuk it mate, we all have different goals. Even tho I only play a bit of pick up bball, I enjoy it and 20% of unwanted BF looks crap and isn't fun to take running and jumping around a ball court for an hour so I still want size but not with a dire loss of condition.

Anyway, a legit shredded (8%) at 13st aint tiny - no Jay Cutler but still a respectable nick to be in
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Re:Dirty get back to basics - 28 October 2008 22:35
LOL, i dont wanna be Jay Cutler, he looks hideous and a walking health issue

Besides i aint sponsored and dont have the budget that would fund a small country for food 

I tend to have the same views as you when it comes to condition. I have always had a large lower half, my legs are massive and my top half lags behind so i wont really be small but even if i am i can hack it as i dont like being large. 

Ive observed a sortve link, former skinny guys dont mind being big and its the opposite for former fat guys

Im taking up full blown Thai Kickboxing from next year and doing bodyweight training and giving weights a miss for a good while, its time i got back to my roots i think

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