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RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 31 December 2005 18:45 (permalink)
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    RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 04 January 2006 17:14 (permalink)
    Ok, just working a few things out. ThermaLean seems a lot cheaper, 100 capsules for £26.99, compared to £17.98 for 100 Ephedrine HCL (but would need to take 3 tabs).

    So total dose cost of ThermaLean is 27p compared to 54p for the Ephedrine HCL. But is ThermaLean just as good? If ThermaLean is rubbish then its just a waste of £26.99.

    Thanks again
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      RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 04 January 2006 18:25 (permalink)
      I've used various herbal equivalents of synthetic eph bro (infact I'm using them now) and find them just as effective tbh.

       
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        RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 04 January 2006 18:47 (permalink)
        i however find that herbal eph makes it harder to pee whilst pharma eph is yummy and side free apart from jitters of course.

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          RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 16 January 2006 12:18 (permalink)
          This post is huge i have read most of it but now im Head ***ked lol

          So whats the best way to go about ECA Then go to boots get chest ez and pro-plus and asprine will i get asked questions if i get all three in the same place (most probley )
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            RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 16 January 2006 12:46 (permalink)
            Thanks for reading through mate; many would just bang the questions out without bothering to read for themelves.

            A much cheaper option belblade than boots would be:

            Get some eph HCL from Astro Nutrition (Hardcore Supps) - an MT site sponser (MuscleTalk members: enter coupon code "muscletalk010" when checking out to save an additional 10%). You'll find a link on the MT home page just below the 'Other Performance Enhancing Drugs' forum link.

            Obtain your Caffeine in handy 200mg tabs from www.monstersupplements.com (search the 'Prolab' items). They're only about £7 for 100 * 200mg pills.

            Obtain aspirin from any supermarket - their 'own brand' version will be far cheaper than recognised brand names for the same thing.
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              RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 16 January 2006 12:58 (permalink)
              Thanks for that PB

              I will give this a try
              Many thanks
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                RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 16 January 2006 18:12 (permalink)
                PB have you came accross this before:

                EPH25+ (ECA with Naringin stack 30/120/30/80) 60 capsule

                How do they compare to other products out there?

                Are the ratios good?

                What the hells Naringin in there for?

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                  RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 16 January 2006 22:53 (permalink)


                  ORIGINAL: Surferph34

                  PB have you came accross this before:

                  EPH25+ (ECA with Naringin stack 30/120/30/80) 60 capsule


                  What the hells Naringin in there for?

                  Naringin
                  -Enhance muscle recovery
                  Support capillary and blood vessel integrity, which may support the body's ability to recover from sports injuries
                  Increase available energy
                  As a potent bioflavonoid, help increase good cholesterol levels
                  Suppress appetite
                  Reduce hunger while potentially enhancing the flavor of foods by stimulating the taste buds
                  Increase nutrient potency
                  Extend the life of supplemented nutrients and increase their potency

                  Usage
                  Amount: A typical amount of naringin supported by research is 500 mg 2 times a day; however, when combined in a formula with other supplements, it's quite common to use 50 to 100 mg per serving.

                  Absorption of naringin from grapefruit juice varies from 5% to 57%, depending on the individual, so supplementation is a better way to get a standardized, reliable dose.

                  Timing: In general, naringin should be consumed with meals or supplement formulas because whole foods or other nutrients support maximum benefits of bioflavonoids.

                  Interested in saving some cash by increasing the potency and lifespan of your supplements? Look no further. Naringin does just that and more.

                  Known drug interactions:
                  A recent discovery is that naringin changes the dose of many drugs by affecting their metabolism. A number of drugs that are known to be affected by naringin include calcium channel blockers, anti-fungal agents, antibiotics, estrogen, sedatives, medications for high blood pressure, allergies, AIDS, and cholesterol-lowering drugs. For example, the body's use of the drug cyclosprorine increases 62% when taken with grapefruit juice. Of course, this can be good news if you know what you're doing because this would make drug use cheaper and more effective—lower dosages being needed for the same effects. But before you use naringin with drugs, be sure to consult with your health professional

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                    RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 16 January 2006 22:57 (permalink)
                    Good stuff thanks!

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                      RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 22 January 2006 03:46 (permalink)
                      Hey everybody, ready to try the ECA stack tomorrow morning for th first time. This stuff has probably been answered but ya know, it's a long thread to read over.

                      I have 8 mg capsules of Ephedrine HCL, 325 mg capsules of aspirin and lots of coffee (tomorrow morning I'm gonna try to find some caffeine pills). Using this information, what would be the best dosage of each? I'm gonna start by taking it once a day and up it in a week or so. Also, since it raises metabolism, is it best to workot or do cardio after taking it, so that you burn more calories? Also, how long does the metbolism boost last? Thanks for the help
                       
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                        RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 22 January 2006 08:59 (permalink)
                        Drop the aspirin, start off with 24mg of eph and 200mg caffeine, see how you find it, if you're ok, up it to 32/40mg per dose, take it twice a day, though as you say for the first week you should be fine on once a day.
                         
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                          RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 22 January 2006 11:21 (permalink)
                          No need to go above 32mg per dose

                           
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                            RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 22 January 2006 14:14 (permalink)
                            Well that's good, I'll blow through my supply too fast if I do more than 24 anyway. Is it smart to cut out the aspirin? I heard it was a safety measure, because it made the load on the heart a little easier to handle. Partyboy, can you give me your opinion on this? Thanks a lot
                             
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                              RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 22 January 2006 15:58 (permalink)
                              What do you mean no need to go above? I don't get any stimulant effects unless I take 40mg+.
                               
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                                RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 22 January 2006 16:59 (permalink)
                                Asp is thought to potentiate the effect of eph akin to the effect of caffeine on eph. Evidence is not particularly clear cut though, so if you experience issues using asp, just run with the eph + caffeine.

                                silynarbie, just because you are not wired from the dosage doesn't mean it isn't exerting an effect. You may be quite tolerant to the side effects, which many would consider a bonus.

                                 
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                                  RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 26 January 2006 23:44 (permalink)
                                  been hearing alot about this stack here in the US...

                                  Ephedrine HCL: 25mg
                                  http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mp/vaso.html

                                  Caffeine: 200mg
                                  http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hp/caf.html

                                  Synephrine HCL: 20mg
                                  http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cns/syn.html

                                  Green Tea Extract: 400mg
                                  http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/gtea.htm

                                  wonder if it's to powerfull of a stack...
                                  thoughts?
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                                    RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 27 January 2006 07:17 (permalink)
                                    Green tea does provide a beneficial effect but is minimal imho and not worth the effort.

                                    No need for synephrine if using ephedrine. tbh, its like using CEE and creatine mono at the same time.

                                     
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                                      RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 06 February 2006 05:53 (permalink)
                                      Hi guys

                                      Just need some advice. I am 6ft/85Kg, 22 tears old. Just started regular wokout at the gym, burning 600 calories a day, 4 times a week, for over 5 weeks. I have i think alot of fat on body; around belly and now starting on chest. Have been reading alot of the ECA cycles but unsure whether i should start. I am very use to high caffine intakes and so no worried about that, and will prefer no to take asprin.

                                      Please could some advise me, if it will be fine starting up the cycle and at what dose: i know the side affects as mentioned

                                      Thanks alot for in advance
                                       
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                                        RE: ECA (Epedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin) 06 February 2006 08:10 (permalink)
                                        ECA isn't a miracle fat loss. If you've just started at the gym, you will probably have been given a programme to get you use to exercise and to up your fitness levels. Give this a chance, it will start you losing weight. Get yourself into the Diet forum, for fat loss is more about diet and training than anything you can buy and take. Once you feel you can handle a harder training routine there are plenty in the beginner forum.

                                        ECA will only be of use if your diet and training are solid and then it just gives you a little bit of help, people tend to take it when their fat loss slows down.

                                        From a health point of view, do read the article and view the side affects seriously
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