ECA (Ephedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin)

Welcome to MT. ^^^ Good advice above.

Thanks for the advice

I bought a pack of Do-Do's Chest-eze and upon reading the active ingredients the main constituent is

Theophylline 100mg
Ephadrine HCL 18.31 mg
Caffeine 30mg


Doing some other research it appears that theophylline is not the nicest drug around. Athsmatics used to be prescrivbed it as a bronchial dilator but this has been superseeded by other drugs due to its sides and variability of breakdown (from 2 hrs to 20 hrs dependent on age, sex and other factors).
This means that adverse effects due to theophylline can vary widely.

Here is an article in T-Nation which details some of the problems:

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do;jsessionid=B343FC32697B9986AE5672C4B108717F.hydra?id=461426


The upshot is that by getting your required dose of ephedrine in this way leaves you open to the (wholly adverse) effects of to much theophylline.

Needless to say, I ain't taking these any more.

I've being finding that since starting eph and caff, I'm constantly high. Even 8-10 hours after I take it so (no sh*t) I have being having problems sleeping, seriously my heart pounds. I have only just started and probably shouldn't have jumped straight into 50mg x3 daily.
What I'd like to know is this a concernable health risk and are there any ways to help come down at night? Is it true that vitamin c works well?

It might be worth noting that I started this at the same time as tren and winstrol while on roaccutane. Thanks.

ORIGINAL: redxiii

I have only just started and probably shouldn't have jumped straight into 50mg x3 daily.

I would say that's a fair assumption. I've started taking it again and am using 1 * 16mg daily.

What I'd like to know is this a concernable health risk

There are risks with any drug though eph does have a good safety record in those who use sensibly and are free from existing cardiac issues.

and are there any ways to help come down at night?

No.

heres my current stats just as an FYI... over the past 2 weeks (after being 2 months off of ECA)
Day 1, 2
1-dose
25mg eph
200 mg caff
400mg GreenTea Extract

Day 3-7
2-dose
25mg eph
200 mg caff
400mg GreenTea Extract

Day 8-14
2-dose
25mg eph
200 mg caff
400mg GreenTea Extract
20mg synephrine


The Green Tea seems to have boosted my results as compared to my usuall ECA stack... and the addition of synephrine after a week boosted my stamina (as if i took an extra dose of Caff).
This is the first day (day 15) i havent taken anything, I feel drained and have had a headache for most of the day... i will be off the stack for 2 weeks before i start again.

So far this has been the best stack i've used in years.

I dont know its it me, but does anyone get slight stomach pains whilst on ECA? it may be just my diet and i'm not going for number 2's enough! or the eff is doing it?

I took,

1 chesteze
100mg caffiene
150mg asp'

today, felt heart race after about 10 min for around a minute then nothing.. is 18.3mg enough eph?

It is for some, not for others.

Do you think it might be becuase im using chesteze?, ive noticed a lot of people saying there not good, in which way are they not good, isn't all eph hcl the same..

Don't know bro, I've never used it.

well lets say, no more ECA, no more pain! im staying away from it. ordered some animal cuts instead.

Is there such thing as eca hangover, i just managed to get up n feel n look awful..

Took 27mg of eph twice today with 170mg caffiene (didnt want to take too much caf since that tricypphalllalala in chesteze is meant to be like it). Still not feeling a buzz of any kind, and feel really tired even though i had 12 hours sleep last night.

Shall keep every1 updated on my progress had 11.1% fat yesterday which isn't too bad considering ive been off training in a strop for about half a year, started the weights again yesters (i ache bad) and starting the kickboxing again friday, so all is on the up.

Thought the eph might get me depressed but i feel great (maybe thats due to the tt+zma i dunno) although i did feel really awful, like i had a mega hangover this morning.

Didn't get any sleep last night, and not for anything worthwhile either
The eph seems to be working on raising body temp,, still no buzz though and im getting out of breath a lot easier than normal.. should i up the caffiene even more had 250mg first dose this morning but still no buzz..

hi mate
as with any drug that 'alters' your hormonal axis this will also happen when using ephedrine. in layman's terms - your body is getting used to it. eph will 'interfere' with hormones etc, that are produced by the adrenal cortex.

to keep the effects to the max you should cycle the dosages and the days that you use it. you should take off-days from it as well. as a guide u should use maybe one dose in the morning before breakfast(then do your cardio) then have a dose before training in the afternoon - not too close to bed-time as this will keep your body temp raised etc,and you will find it difficult to sleep.

on lighter training days use only one dose and on off-days use nothing.adding green tea extract is a good idea. and remember to take a few days off from using the eph every now and then.you will feel down and a bit weaker than normal when you train, but train as hard as usual.
as i said your body gets used too it and stops producing certain things - this will sonn get back to normal.
then continue your cycle and it will work wonders again.

I wanted to loose some weight, I managed to get hold of some ephedrine hydrochloride 30mg tablets about a month ago. I took around 4 tablets at a time once a day and then after a week took 6 tablets at a time once a day for about 4 weeks, lost a bit of weight but not as much as i had hoped. My supplier didn't know much on how to get best effect out of them and recommended a came on here and asked someone. Im not looking to gain any maximum muscle or anything i do go gym and just to light work out running and a bit of weight lifting, mostly want to loose some weight.

Can anyone advise me on how many ephedrine hydrochloride 30mg tablets i need to take and how many times a day to gain maximum weight loss.

Please read through this thread - all the information is contained herein. Needless to say, you have been dosing it quite dangerously imho.

Well took my first ECA stack today, just one dose and it consisted of;

2 chesteze
4 pro plus
1/2 aspirin

I took this lot at 4.30 today and i am still feeling the effects lol. Been for 1/2 hour run and still full of energy, so really pleased with the effects, don't think i can see myself taking this stuff 3 times a day though.

shez

hehe, Im gonna start mine from sunday. Kinda getting curious if itll effect me in anyway.