ECA (Ephedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin)

Even though party boy doesn't know me, I'd like to say thanks because reading through this thread has helped me understand a great deal about ephedrine and its effects.

I took 3 8mg tablets earlier on this evening with 200mg of caffeine (tablet form). I didn't feel anything and my heart rate remained stable at around 55bpm. This stayed constant I would say for about an hour and fifteen minutes.

After that I THINK I began to feel a little more energised, more alert and couldn't really close my eyes to try to fall asleep (I still can't). That's ok though. I managed to bench 30% more than my usual maximum and felt good doing it. I am also not hungry at all now and could easily skip my post workout meal (although won't). I am also feeling slightly jittery.

HOWEVER I dont know if this is all my imagination - I am pretty sure it's not, but I dont know if my mind is telling me to be like this. You know?

I am going to take this again before my cardio tomorrow morning and report back on how I feel.

What are the implications of smoking cigarettes whilst taking Ephedrine? I'm worried about a reaction. I've not heard much on the subject, but have heard a little that it's not that great for you.

ORIGINAL: upforit99

What are the implications of smoking cigarettes whilst taking Ephedrine? I'm worried about a reaction. I've not heard much on the subject, but have heard a little that it's not that great for you.

I know a few who smoke while on EPH, they seem to be doing ok.

Thanks - what about taking an Ibuprofen a few hours before taking around 24mg of ephedrine?

You can, but what are you taking it for?

Literally because I had a headache and had a Nurofen ;)

oh ok. I thought it was a regular thing you were enquiring about.

btw, get superdrug's own brand ibuprofen, they're sh1t loads cheaper for the same stuff.

You see, I learnt two things today! Great!

Without sounding like an addict (and im not), this stuff is great. I only had four -five hours sleep last night, got up early did some cardio and was really shattered the whole day (didn't take any ephedrine). Anyway so Im about to head home and took only a couple of tablets (8mg * 2) and withing an hour I was alert, running down the train platforms etc. This NEVER happens. I wa sos energised and I loved it. It wasn't even a large dose.

It doesn't really curb my hunger cravings though....

does ephedrine actually burn fat???

i need to help my training and cardio to burn off the last bit of fat around my stomach....and bring out the abs too...

is ephidrine going to aid me

or shall i jst continue with the cardio with no place for this supplement..

i do like the idea of raised energy levels..but not sure about sleepness nights

what do you people suggest?

ORIGINAL: jordanpolonijo

does ephedrine actually burn fat???

No. Calorie intake deficit to requirements burns fat. ECA slightly increases calorie expenditure, and provides performance advantage.

ORIGINAL: jordanpolonijo

does ephedrine actually burn fat???

i need to help my training and cardio to burn off the last bit of fat around my stomach....and bring out the abs too...

is ephidrine going to aid me

or shall i jst continue with the cardio with no place for this supplement..

i do like the idea of raised energy levels..but not sure about sleepness nights

what do you people suggest?

Sleepless nights? I doubt you'll get those. If you're busy all day AND training you'll be ready for that pillow even with the ephedrine.

Am currently running eph and its my first ever time, I'm running 30mg eph with 200mg caffeine 30-45 minutes prior to training and cv, when should I up the dose, when my fat loss starts to slow??

I am currently only on week 1

Up it to twice if you are ok with sides.

I'm slightly concerned about taking ECA before cardio - I mean my cardio sessions are HIIT so my heart rate will be through the roof at times. Anyone try HIIT with an ECA?

I've done sparring and grappling on ECA (probably about as close as I'll get to HIIT) and not had any problems, other than sweating like a beatch!

Have a Q re cycling ECA:

It is considered that 3 dosings per day is the maximum that a user should consume, with the last dose taken prior to 6pm to avoid sleep problems. Cycle length would normally be limited to 12 weeks, so the prospective user must give consideration to how long they will need to reach their goals. Should this exceed 12 weeks, then the ECA should be introduced later into the cutting regime, not immediately at the outset. I would then advise taking at least 12 weeks abstinence from ECA use to limit over-dependance problems.

Other than "over-dependance problems" is there any other reason to stop after 12 weeks, for 12 weeks? Having taken ECA stack for 12 weeks now, I have stopped, but am just wondering if and why a full 12 weeks abstinence is necessary - I have no dependance issues and frankly didn't notice many sides after a few weeks of being on ECA despite being a 1st time user.

Thanks

Well normally 12 weeks should be adequate time for the cut to be complete (if it is not, then ECA was started to early).

So if its taken already pre cv / weights take double????

Up it to twice if you are ok with sides.

or did you mean up it to twice a day?

I dont CLAIM to be a bodybuilder I AIM to be a bodybuilder!

Me - not that long ago

Twice per day. You could go to thrice if required, though I personally just dose twice.

Yeah using twice - cheers mate.

Where would you put the 3rd dose? Before bed? LMFAO

I dont CLAIM to be a bodybuilder I AIM to be a bodybuilder!

Me - not that long ago

Cheers for the response PB.

Well normally 12 weeks should be adequate time for the cut to be complete (if it is not, then ECA was started to early).

In hindisght, yes you're absoloutely correct, I should have either started ECA later or upped dosage to 3x per day earlier. . .but I didn't.

So, the Q remains, is there risk of physiological damage in not allowing a rest period of 12 complete weeks between cycles?

I wouldn't have thought so.

Any idea on how many weeks would be sufficient then? For example would I be okay to take 1 week off and then do another 4/5 weeks?

No, take at least 6 weeks off.

I've just started my ECA stack (first time). I'm only on my 2nd day, when do the side effects kick in as I haven't felt a thing so far (not that I'm complaining - just wondering if it's working properly?)

Dosage:

3x8mg Kaizen ephedrine tablets
200mg caffeine
75g Aspirin

what types of effects would 1 ephidrine tablet a day plues caffeine tablet have on me...up until i read this post i was always told it burns fat and is sold as a fat burner..

does it make a notcable physique if u supplement it into a good diet cardio and weights...

id like to hear some stories

Once upon a time...

Eph is a stimulant, it will boost your metabolism. In conjunction with a good diet and cardio this will aid in fat loss.

It also gives you a boost pre cardio / workout as its a stimulant. helps focus etc.

The end.


I prefer short stories, novels get boring

I dont CLAIM to be a bodybuilder I AIM to be a bodybuilder!

Me - not that long ago

ORIGINAL: Craig*

I've just started my ECA stack (first time). I'm only on my 2nd day, when do the side effects kick in as I haven't felt a thing so far (not that I'm complaining - just wondering if it's working properly?)

You should feel more alert within 40 minutes of taking the dose tbh. If you feel nothing you may be quite tolerant to the effects. Are you are moderate/heavy coffee drinker?

ORIGINAL: PartyBoy

ORIGINAL: Craig*

I've just started my ECA stack (first time). I'm only on my 2nd day, when do the side effects kick in as I haven't felt a thing so far (not that I'm complaining - just wondering if it's working properly?)

You should feel more alert within 40 minutes of taking the dose tbh. If you feel nothing you may be quite tolerant to the effects. Are you are moderate/heavy coffee drinker?

You should feel more alert within 40 minutes of taking the dose tbh. If you feel nothing you may be quite tolerant to the effects. Are you are moderate/heavy coffee drinker?

Not really mate - I may have one cup a day, sometimes none at all. I do get a mild tingling sensation in the fingers & down my back, and can feel myself getting hotter all of a sudden. It must be working then, I think my expectations were a bit OTT. Thanks for the reply mate.

Hey guys, im new to this forum. Ive been using ECA on/off for several months, and just wondering if anyone else has experienced chills down the spine instead of sweating? Wierd thing is that I feel very hot only at bedtime and during workouts but rest of the time I tend to feel a bit cold. Is this normal?

had been usually been taking my 3 doses per day however spend a few nights at my parents house and rather trying to explain what the hell all these pills i was poping i've been taking 2doses od 3x8mh kaisen eph 2x 200mg caff and 150mg asp in one go before 6pm a few nights on the trot. Is there any problem in doing this? I will resume normal dosage (eveb back upto 3xdaily after the weekend)

Rodge

Injured!!

Squat 170kgx1 105kgx25
Dead 200x1
Decline Bench 80x6

Formerly BencherRdg  (what a stoooopid name!)

Hi there BencherRdg, gotta say thats quite a large dose indeed. Did you experience anything you faaster heart beat, sweating etc? I think it should be okay for several nights if you're not doing as much cardio. Needless to say, this is not recommended for more than a week.

I'm going on vacation with my parents too, and i may well find myself in the same situation! Just out of interest, are you planning to excercise during this time period?

ORIGINAL: BencherRdg

had been usually been taking my 3 doses per day however spend a few nights at my parents house and rather trying to explain what the hell all these pills i was poping i've been taking 2doses od 3x8mh kaisen eph 2x 200mg caff and 150mg asp in one go before 6pm a few nights on the trot. Is there any problem in doing this? I will resume normal dosage (eveb back upto 3xdaily after the weekend)

Rodge

What would be the point in doing that? To surpress your appetite? Why would you need that much? If you're going to work out, why would you need that much in one go? I always thought that an ECA stack was not specifically to boost your metabolism on it's own, but to surpress appetite, give increased energy for workouts and thus lose weight.

I'm not an expert at all, but that's what I have gathered from all the users who have told me about it and the writings on the subject on the net.

I wish someone would ammend the article. Caff is so popular in common culture with Coke and coffee that people seem to need 200mg. I don;t drink Cokes or coffee and 200mg is WAY to much.

I have a feeling most of us stay away from soft drinks.

Caff is such a popular item in our world that the tolerance levels vary widely!

Hi there BencherRdg, gotta say thats quite a large dose indeed. Did you experience anything you faaster heart beat, sweating etc? I think it should be okay for several nights if you're not doing as much cardio. Needless to say, this is not recommended for more than a week.

I'm going on vacation with my parents too, and i may well find myself in the same situation! Just out of interest, are you planning to excercise during this time period?

I wasnt really if i should do it all at once. Did really notice anythink i hadnt noticed when having 3 doses spread a bit more evenly. I ionly did it for 2 days, but it was prior to weights one night and cardio the other yes.

What would be the point in doing that? To surpress your appetite? Why would you need that much? If you're going to work out, why would you need that much in one go? I always thought that an ECA stack was not specifically to boost your metabolism on it's own, but to surpress appetite, give increased energy for workouts and thus lose weight.

I'm not an expert at all, but that's what I have gathered from all the users who have told me about it and the writings on the subject on the net.

Does it not have anti catabolic features useful when trying to shed BF (and maintain muscle)?
The reason i had that much in one go was as i did have acess to it until after work (been stopping at parents overnight a few nights and visiting my house after work to get my gym kit and go to gym.

hpe that sort of explains. I suppose th alternative would have been to stop it for a few days

Rodge

Injured!!

Squat 170kgx1 105kgx25
Dead 200x1
Decline Bench 80x6

Formerly BencherRdg  (what a stoooopid name!)

I've just started EC (no A) for the first time. I've been taking 1 dose a day for the last 4 days (at 6am) 30mins before my cardio.
So far, I haven't noticed any side effects at all. Is this normal?

I'm taking Sida caps (300 mg / 10% ephedra) from myprotien, and Caffeine tabs (200mg) from myprotein.

I never drink tea/coffee/coke.

Just wondering if I should up the dose at all?

I didn't feel any side effects at all in the first week, but I was using it sparsely.

Today though I was very worried. I took 24mg of ephedrine, 200mg caffeine, 75mg aspirin at around 5.30am. My upper chest (to the left) was giving me some pains. Because of this I skipped my cardio.

This afternoon I took the same dosage at around 6.30pm. Then I got home did some cardio and was fine (ish). I could see my chest moving in and out where my heart is. Now this could simply be the fact I have lost a lot of weight and can now actually SEE my heart beating through my chest... i don't know.

Anyway about 2 hours after that I started to get the same pain in my upper chest that I had this morning. I'm gutted. I was fine before, but today seems to have taken a turn for the worse.

I've also been on my first ECA stack for a week. Side effects were minimal for a week (tingling fingers, spine, mild sweats) but now I seem to get a serious headache all the time, but only when training. On non-training days I feel fine, but as soon as I hit the gym & get on with the first set of weights, I get a dull pain right in the back of my head, and it doesn't let up. Could this be linked to the ECA, or have I maybe pulled a neck muscle or something?

Craig, have you been drinking enough water?

I don't feel any effects at all from taking my EC stack. No sweating, no increased heart rate, no hunger suppression, no shaking, no headaches, no increased alertness, no rise in energy levels. I'm not sure whats going on!

Craig, have you been drinking enough water?

Yes mate, about 4 litres a day. Could it be the caffeine that is giving me the headaches, as I hardly ever drink coffee etc?

Hi,

New to this ECA, but a mate of mine said this is the stuff to try if you want to shed the pounds quicker. Ive read the posts on this topic and im a bit confused to what to start with. I weigh about 14st and im 6ft tall. I havent been to the gym in about 3-4 months (due to university) now ive finnished its time for me to get into shape as im fedup of being a fat s**t lol. So im hoping this ECA will give me the boost (from the caffiene if anything) to lose the weight and get into shape. Ive planned out my gym routine which is spread over 4 times a week and the two days im not at the gym its a brisk morning run.

So i was hoping someone could recommend a starting dose for me (basically put it into leymans terms). Also recommend a good shop to get Ephadrine from. I have the caffiene tabs from myprotien.co.uk and i can pick up some aspirin from boots or somewhere. Just need a good place to get the eph from ... what do you guys recommend??.

Also ive noticed people saying "stack" how do you take all these pills?? just down them one at a time ?? or shove em all in your mouth and swallow lol ?? bit confused?

Hope you guys can help me out and this seems like a very knowledgable board.

Thanks

B