ECA (Ephedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin)

Hi i was wondering whats the best time to take ephedrine i have um 25mg tabs i was wondering what to take per day?

Depends how many doses you plan on taking.

I used to simply have an even split of 3 doses throughout the day.

One dose about half hour before morning cardio, another around lunch time and the last between 4-5pm ish.

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ORIGINAL: lukebaz

Hi i was wondering whats the best time to take ephedrine i have um 25mg tabs i was wondering what to take per day?

All explained within this thread. Most of it on the first page!

im starting my ec tomorrow. im not including the aspirin as i want to try it without first.
im goin to the gym right after work so should i take them 1hr before or when. thanks for any info. iv took ephedrine for rugby before so its not new but iv never took it ed like this.
cheers

Personally i would aim to take it around 30-45 minutes before training.

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cheers mate

not really as the caffeine and asprin work with ephedrine to block receptors etc so the body is in thermogenesis (generates body heat/energy for increase in metabolism) mode for longer so you get more of a gain and suppressed appetite.

also if has not previously been mentioned after upto 2 weeks of continued use the effects of the suppressed appetite will fade as your body gets used to it, that is why the cycle of use should be 1/2 week/s.

that and a psychological dependence can develop after a few months of continued use.

high amounts of caffine have been known to prevent your body from absorbing vitamins and minerals and other problems.

but like most type of drugs or plant based remedies, damage comes from abuse so just be sensible.

ORIGINAL: mmaGuru

not really as the caffeine and asprin work with ephedrine to block receptors etc so the body is in thermogenesis (generates body heat/energy for increase in metabolism) mode for longer so you get more of a gain and suppressed appetite.

Not entirely sure what you mean here?

ORIGINAL: PartyBoy

ORIGINAL: mmaGuru

not really as the caffeine and asprin work with ephedrine to block receptors etc so the body is in thermogenesis (generates body heat/energy for increase in metabolism) mode for longer so you get more of a gain and suppressed appetite.

Not entirely sure what you mean here?

I thought someone had asked if taking ephedrine on its own would work ok. looking back though I dont see where I got it from

Sorry for sounding dull but if i want to shed some pounds, trim up, and get that little bit of extra fitnbess during soccer matches i should take Eph only?

Is this correct?

Anyone used this site before and is this what i am looking for? http://www.****/

Eph+Caffeine should help on both counts, though as I'm sure you're aware, shedding fat is down to calories in vs calories out, rather than ECA.

The website has been filtered out as source (or price) discussion of illicit or grey area meds is not permitted. For the record though I can view the site you were attempting to quote and I would advise against you using them. They are not reliable.

Thanks PartyBoy - yes i am trying to control my calories but am still not sure how many i should be putting in - bearing in mind i do fitness/cardio training twice a week and 90 minute match on weekend

So eph and caffeine it is - i am new to this so can you advise where to purchase them from? also how many i should take a day and when (bearing in mind i've not done this before)?

ORIGINAL: blakep

So eph and caffeine it is - i am new to this so can you advise where to purchase them from?

www.musclefinesse.com/other-brands-eph-25.asp

http://astronutrition.com/weight-loss-weight-loss-ephedrine-ephedra-25_1/?zenid=60d045f90828fb93bc541fd1113bdf0b

also how many i should take a day and when (bearing in mind i've not done this before)?

Info required is at the start of this thread!


But i would advise simply starting on one daily dose and build up from that depending on your tolerance to it.

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PB's (88kg-natural)
Squat - 135kg
Bench - 125kg x 2
Deadlift - 230kg

Cheers noname - i'll let you know how i get on and weight loss etc in a few weeks!

One more question - i have hayfever and take anti-histamiens (excuse spelling)

Am i still ok to take and ECA stack?

Yes that will be fine.

Also, I might suggest that you head over to the diet forum for assistance with your diet. Without this nailed toward a fat loss goal, you will lose nothing, eph or no eph

ORIGINAL: PartyBoy

Also, I might suggest that you head over to the diet forum for assistance with your diet. Without this nailed toward a fat loss goal, you will lose nothing, eph or no eph

I would 2nd that advice above .........and i talk from experience on that!

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PB's (88kg-natural)
Squat - 135kg
Bench - 125kg x 2
Deadlift - 230kg

ok thanks guys - just posted a thread in the diet column asking for some advice

they did say stay off the ECA stack though?!?!

Understandable. Why play all your jokers at once...

Correct adjustment to diet alone should be sufficient to consistently lose fat. When things become difficult when you are approaching low bodyfat levels, maybe add ECA in then

PartyBoy

I'm currently taking sida cordifolia. It says "sida cordifolia extract 300 mg standardized at 8% alkaloids." does this mean 24mg eph?


When taking eph how long should I leave between doses?

And what is the maximum that can be taken? (if someone has high tolorance)



(i've read through the whole thread but may have missed the above)


Also I've purchased what appears to be the old stacker 2 (with ephedra) from bodyactive-online but the label does not say how much of each ingredient is included. Also I cannot see any expiry date. The doses says "1 capsule na de maaltijd, niet meer dan 3 capsules per dag. I don't know what to make of this. I think it days 1 cap 3 times per day.


CHeers

1 - Yes
2 - Normally would be around 4-5 hours. Best to start on just 1 dose per day - first thing in the morning.
3 - I recommend a max of 3 dosings of 30mg eph. I know many go higher, and since yours are 24mg, there could be a case for using 4 or perhaps even 5 for a high tolerant user.
4 - It's Dutch and reads "1 capsule after meal, not more that 3 capsules per day". I would ignore the "after meal" bit. ECA stacks are great for appetite supression, so it makes sense to take well before a meal. As said above, your first dose would be first thing in the morning, 45minutes before breakfast.

Thanks for the reply.

One Last question and I do appologise as it is a bit retarted.

When I'm asking at the pharmacy for 75mg aspirin, when they ask me "who is it for/what is it for" I don't use aspirin and not sure what to tell them.

They may not do 75mg aspirin, "baby aspirin" are not as common as the 300mg ones so may need to get yourself a pill-cutter from somewhere.

There shouldn't be any problem buying them, they'll probably just ask whether you've used aspirin before. Just say "yes, I use it for pain and don't like paracetamol". There's a limit on the number that you can get from 1 shop. A box or 24 or 36 should be fine though

Is this ok to take with creatine?
Someone told me it will dehydrate you too much.



What about alcohol?
I more or less quit drinking ( I still drink once a month) and try to avoid it but cannot on birthdays/weddings etc...

ORIGINAL: RedGladiator

Is this ok to take with creatine?
Someone told me it will dehydrate you too much.

Yes, it's fine. Simply make sure you keep your fluid intake at a suitable level.

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PB's (88kg-natural)
Squat - 135kg
Bench - 125kg x 2
Deadlift - 230kg

i,m using these tablets from america called rage. Took 1 cap. at 9.00am trained for 3 hrs sweatin cobs, didnt wanna stop man buzzin my tits off. downsight didnt sleep that night suspect ingredients 2 b eph, narnegin, aspirin, caff and poss laced wi phets so b carefull that ****s letha ! pro,s it,ll strip paint off your front door bye bye love handles HELLO abs

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i,m using these tablets from america called rage. Took 1 cap. at 9.00am trained for 3 hrs sweatin cobs, didnt wanna stop man buzzin my tits off. downsight didnt sleep that night suspect ingredients 2 b eph, narnegin, aspirin, caff and poss laced wi phets so b carefull that ****s letha ! pro,s it,ll strip paint off your front door bye bye love handles HELLO abs

 

have just tried these american tablets called "rage" theyre probably made in some u.g.l but boy where they strong. Contents must be high doses of eca and me thinks phets. Trained for 3 hours heavy no problem (cv included) then came home no probs with appetite but buzzing like a bee. This was 10am anyway 4.00am that night layed in bed with eyes wide open lol and couldnt sleep.These tabs will honestly strip paint off doors goodbye lovehandles HELLO abs

I've got severe pain in my knee, meaning I can't do cardio or any lower body workout - only doing upper body right now. Is it ok to take Ibuprofen as well as Ephedrine?

Also I think I have grown tolerant to Ephedrine's effects right now. I usually take 3*8mg. I only have the 8mg tablets, so is it ok to take four of these and make it a 32mg dosage of ephedrine in one go? I have read the whole of this thread before and appreciate this question my have already been asked, but wanted to confirm if this was ok or not.

As well as this, i've only ever stopped taking ephedrine for one or two days during a week. The most i've taken in a day is one 24mg dose in the morning and one 24mg dose around 1pm before workout. See any problems with this? Do I REALLY need to cycle the intake?

is there anywhere to buy ready made eca i have it all in seperated powders with ephidrine tablets and sick of making them up , im sure i am saving money but im getting lazy now

Where can I get epedrine from???

Am I ok to take these by themselves, could someone email me on sunyp@hotmail.co.uk if they can get them payment ready via paypal.

Kind Regards

Suny

astro nutrition mate

ORIGINAL: PartyBoy

ECA = Ephedrine/Caffeine/Aspirin stack

Standard dosage would be:

Ephedrine 20-30mgs
Caffeine 200mg (equivalent to approx 2.5 cups of coffee)
Aspirin 75mg

Are these too strong then

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Yes. You need a pill cutter

is it ok to use this eca while still trying to add muscle mass.
i still want to eat like a horse and gain muscle mass, so can i use eca to just burn fat away, or does it only make you lean because its an appetite suppressent

ORIGINAL: Unleash the Beast

i still want to eat like a horse and gain muscle mass, so can i use eca to just burn fat away,

No, just eat less.

just bought some eph 25+ - 60 caps
it says to take 45 mins prior to training yet i do my gruelling cardio/weights in the evening... i dont want to be buzzing off my tits and not be able to get to sleep

when is the best time to take a cap?

i do cardio at 6:30am and weights,MMA,cardio around 6-7pm

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I wouldn't bother with one in the evening as inevitably you'll be buzzing through the night.

Just take some in the morning with water when you get up.

cheers....
i bought some 200mg tabs of caffeine from MP and they really add to the buzzzzzz

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ok i'm not feeling anything of note with this eph 25+

took two caps this morning with an additional 200mg caffeine tab (from MP)

surely i should be buzzing off my nut?

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