It's possible. You may notice cold hands/feet.

Blood is drawn from extremities, which also accounts for the small penis syndrome.

 

Hey thanks party boy!

i want to be able to get some ephedrine, i have sourced through the website you mentioned in this post earlier, but what is the name of the tablest that you recommend for great weight loss!

as for the small penis syndrome, hmmm i dont think i have to worry too much about this, as im a gurl, lol  ;o)

ALSO COULD I ASK, i am not actually feeling the suprression towards food, my appetite is not as big but i dnt feel particularly supressed either!
Do you think maybe im not taking enough eph? i uped my inatek today, took three this morning, and three this afternoon, im running low on tabs, so been a bit stingy.... im going away at the end of the month, so didnt want to rely on post (Typically British post at this time of the year) so any advice will be appreciated!

Regards

Billy

Sounds like your eph could be 8mg if you are needing 3 for an effect. If you got them from Astro previously, they are most likely 8mg. You could increase to 4 per dose, twice (or perhaps thrice) per day as it appears you are quite tolerant to the effects.

Some like Grenade, others get nothing from them so maybe best to avoid these in your case. Perhaps have a look at Eph25+ which always seems to get a good response. http://www.musclefinesse.com/eph-25-eph-25.aspx

 

Hey party boy, thanks once again for you prompt response! much appreciated...

I only took three this morning, and i could feel a difference when i went to the gym, and i sweat a little more then normal.... i didnt get the tabs from Astro, i got them from a 'friend' a while ago... but i definately think your right, they seem to be small dosages, but its just risky incase theyre not... however as you highlighted, the more tabs the better response im seeing!

Also i am training, by doing an hour and a half of cardio (bike, cross trainer) and swimming for half an hour... do you think this will be sufficient to aid maximum weight loss??

Regards

Billy
 
Also

Seems a tad excessive tbh, though depends on frequency.


Don't neglect strength training in favour of solely cardio. Strength/resistance training has been shown to increase metabolic rate for a far greater timeframe after the exercise has finished than is the case for cardio. Also, muscle is metabolically active which requires calories to survive - therefore greater muscle mass = more calories burned at rest; a win win situation if you are trying to lose fat. Don't worry about "getting big" it simply won' t happen being female. To maintain noticeable muscularity as a female you need to be extremely dedicated to that goal, have decent genetics, and quite possibly use anabolics.

 

Hey, yeh i hear what your saying, i used to have a personal trainer who did only resistance training with me, and yeh i know it works... just dont really know what to do without the guidance...

Maybe ask for assistance in the Routines forum for ideas on simple yet effective training. Any exercises that you hear but don't know what they are just have a look at this link and on the right hand side there are video's of loads of exercises for all the various muscle groups:

http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html

 

Also, I usually cringe when I hear the words "personal trainer", especially in conjunction with female training. 9 times out of ten they suggest the brightly coloured dumbells for god knows how many reps telling you that you're "toning". wtf??? Toning? A muscle gets bigger or it gets smaller, it doesn't "tone".

So, bottom line is the training must be challenging for you. Generally speaking, lift heavy so that you can only manage 8-12 reps for each set

 

Lol party boy, dont worry i didnt have a 'nancy boy trainer' we did proper training, with proper machines, Rob Blakeman (dont mean to advertise) oops, it was one of his boys... i tell you summut, it was hard work... really saw great results, but couldnt afford to maintain!

think im gonna try the 4tabs today, wish me luck, i wanna lose atleast a stone in the next four weeks u rekon i can do it? also if iorder off that website hw soon do they deliver?

chocolatechip

think im gonna try the 4tabs today, wish me luck

Good luck ;-)

, i wanna lose atleast a stone in the next four weeks u rekon i can do it?

Well that's 3.5lb per week. Realistically you're not going to lose 3.5lb of fat per week. That's not to say you won't lose 3.5lb of weight per week. This is 2 very different things. 1lb of fat is around 3500cals of stored energy. That means you need a calorie deficit of 3500cals to make the body utilise 1lb of it's fat stores. It's not as simple as that as your body will use stored glycogen and protein catabolism (breakdown of muscle tissue) also for it's energy needs but we will ignore this for simplicity. So, let's say you're on an average 2000cal per day to maintain bodyweight. That's 14000cal per week. To lose 3.5lb of fat you need to not ingest 3.5 * 3500 cals = 12250cals. To in essence you would only be able to eat 1750cals per week, or 250 cals per day! Do you see the problem lol?

Extreme calorie restriction in the manner above is futile anyway. Your metabolic rate would grind to a halt taking you into 'survival mode', and your body would break down lots of muscle tissue for it's energy needs. You would end up what is termed a "skinny fat person".


You need to be realistic in your goals. A sensible, moderate rate of loss would be around 1-1.5lb per week, though in the early weeks this can be quite a bit more as carbohydrate restriction will reduce cellular water. This is the reason why those going ultra low carbs (Atkins et al) will lose loads of weight in the first few weeks as water losses are considerable. What many don't appreciate is that water will be regained if carbs are introduced at the level previous to the onset of the 'diet'. Nevertheless, this approach is a useful short term 'fix' for anyone who needs to get rid of weight for a short time, in the very near future.

also if iorder off that website hw soon do they deliver?

Uncannily taken from their website ;-)

Muscle Finesse Delivery

Next Day Delivery is FREE on all orders to the UK mainland!
All orders processed by 3.00pm Monday to Friday will be dispatched the same day (subject to product availability).
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Party Boy ur great ;o)

i ordered the tablets you recommended, eph 25+, so hopefully shall recieve them soon...
i just wanted to ask, on the website they recommend you take two am and two pm, but how many would you say i should take to see optimum results within my time frame?

hope ur doing well...

Thanks Billy
 

chocolatechip


Party Boy ur great ;o)

I aim to please
(but fail miserably most of the time lol)

on the website they recommend you take two am and two pm, but how many would you say i should take to see optimum results within my time frame?

You definately should start on 1 tab to assess tolerance, given their strength. Try perhaps 1 tab, twice per day and increase as required depending on tolerance. Assuming your high tolerance, I'd say a max of 2 tabs, three times a day, for 8 weeks. Don't be too keen on increasing if you are 'feeling' the stuff on lower dosages. You build up tolerance anyway throughout the cycle so don't use all your weapons at the first battle; leave scope to increase when the need arises. After all, the best thing about ECA is not any "fat burning" effect (which is actually quite minimal), it is it's effect on appetite suppression and increased vigour that is appealing and makes your own fat loss efforts easier to cope with

 

Partyboy, i know it's reccomended that ECA be taken for 8 weeks then take a break but if taking the ECA on a day on day off protocol would the break still be required?

Mon - off
Tues - ECA pm
Wed - off
Thurs - ECA pm
Fri - off
Sat - ECA pm
Sun - off

You could continue for longer. I wouldn't really advise using for more than say 12-14 weeks without a complete break for at least as long. 12-14 weeks should be long enough for anyone to  reach their cutting goal anyway. If it isn't, then they started using drugs too early in the cut.

 

sorry fpr double posting, but did not realise this was a specific thread. Guess i shoul dstart running searches.

to minimise muscle loss in a cut - can you./should you take a test booster whilst taking an eph stack

No

 

Why not party boy?

what is the most popular eca all in one - that mans have got good results from

'Test boosters' are crap. If you want to increase test, then inject testosterone.

Have a read through this thread for product suggestions.

 

A quick question please,

i am currently using EPH25+. At the end of January i am being sent by work to have a Bupa full health check. When should i stop use of the suplement before the tests, or shouldnt i worry about using it ?

thanks for the help :)

"If you're going to be thinking, you may as well think big"

I would stop using it.

 

PartyBoy


I would stop using it.

thanks for the advice PB
 
would you stop right now or a week or so before the tests ? I wonder how long it would take to disapear from the body ?
 
 

"If you're going to be thinking, you may as well think big"

I am thinking of doing a stack like this coming my summer cut down in calories plus increase is cycling. I'd like to know if you could tell me an equivalent "ready made" to your stack, also if this stack or ready made one will help increase stamina specially while cycling for more or less few hours? Any other inf would be appreciated. The reason is I am kind of getting sick of mixing and matching and maybe want to try a ready made one.

Great source of information!! Thanks.

Sorted out a good diet, a good cardio/weights routine, and supplemented by x2 eph 25+ or grenades. Works great.

2 questions;

With Ephedrine having been used as a decongestant, and for asthma sufferers, it obviously affects the lungs. Therefore, is it even more dangeous to smoke while using ephedrine?

How much more dangerous (or more sides) is it using Clen compared to Eph?

Thanks

No more dangerous to smoke. Smoking itself is dangerous enough!

Have a read of the clen article for comprehensive info:

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/Clenbuterol-m165419.aspx

 

Hello PB

been out the game for a while but just got back into it.
fantastic threads and advice on here

Quick questions, is there any problem with taking EPH and Creatine 45 mins before my work out ?

cheers

BB

No, assuming that you have no pre-existing health conditions ie cardiac issues, hypertension.

Personally, I'd rather take the creatine post workout with a carb source.

 

monsieur partyboy,

I'm looking to start an EC stack as soon as possible. I've purchased a tub of 200mg caffiene tablets from myprotein (seen here: http://www.myprotein.co.uk/capsules-tablets-softgels/weight-loss/caffeine-pro/ ).

edited

The two best things in life... pumpin, and humpin...

Unfortunately eph hcl is a grey area for suppliers. It is either a Prescription Only Medicine, or in certain cercumstances it is a 'P' medicine, meaning it can be over the counter but only via a registered Pharmacist outlet. Any UK  supplier selling eph hcl therefore is likely doing so outwith the law. As such as a rule we do not discuss sourcing. Suppliers residing outside the UK may be able to supply legally but usual 3 month import restrictions apply to you as a purchaser.

 

no problem, my bad.

in that case, I will look at acquiring chesteze. my only question regarding this, as it only hold 18mg of eph per tablet will I be ok starting with 2 tablets per day with 200mg caffeine tablet?

The two best things in life... pumpin, and humpin...

Don't know. I wouldn't

 

Unfortunately eph hcl is a grey area for suppliers. It is either a Prescription Only Medicine, or in certain cercumstances it is a 'P' medicine, meaning it can be over the counter but only via a registered Pharmacist outlet. Any UK supplier selling eph hcl therefore is likely doing so outwith the law. As such as a rule we do not discuss sourcing. Suppliers

 
party boy how can you say this when you have already discussed in this thread where to source from xtreme supps and muscle finese

 
Bodybuilding Warehouse

As far as I'm aware the products sold, are herbal equivalent preparations.

 

i thought eph was from a chinese plant anyway?

 
Bodybuilding Warehouse

Ephedrine hydrochloride is sythetically manufactured in a 'lab' (of sorts in many cases!)

 

Hi there,

Just got hold of some 30mg Eph tabs with 'Atom' on them, anybody used these before?

I've experimented with grenade and eph 25+ tabs already, but they haven't increased my workout output, but have suppressed my appetite and kept me awake for night shifts at a bookies, hopefully these new tabs will do both and improve my workout.

Hi dude. I just registered. I see youve been on here for years therefore you should be able to advise if you dont mind? I currently need to burn off 20lbs then i plan to stick to pure muscle/strength building technics! What supplement (eph?) would you suggest to get to work - i run 5 times a week hard and only lost 2lbs this week! Think I need a booster? Any recommendation? Thanks

hello partyboy im wanting to lose fat  but still keep muscle have you got any tip for doing this or siutable courses
 
thanx

Guys how much ephedrine is in the little white tabs? You know straight ephedrine, nothing else?

Keeping muscle is down to sensible fat loss. Hammer cardio too hard or drop cals too low and you will risk muscle. Aiming for a sensible rate of fat loss is vital, 1-1.5lb per week is plenty.

Should you be trying to cut to very low bodyfat levels (single figure %) then steroid support may be necessary. I'm talking about real bodyfat levels here and not "hoping but never in a million years" guesstimates of bodyfat levels ie. someone who claims they are 12% and are more like 20%.

 

Pariah


Guys how much ephedrine is in the little white tabs? You know straight ephedrine, nothing else?

No idea tbh. They come in all shapes/sizes/strengths. Bottom line is trust your source.