ECA (Ephedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin)

The theory behind the Asprin is that it thins the blood enough so the Epth has a greater effect on your thermergenic cycle.
the cheapest source of EPTH is in DoDos Chest Eze they pack 19mgs of the stuff per tablet and are £2 per 9 pills from any chemist

The Truth


Sorry in advance as not really read the thread but why aspirin?? All it does is destroy your stomach. Yes to the E and the C

 
From the 1st post:
 
"It's debatable as to the importance of aspirin in the grand scheme. It is included in the hope that it acts as a prostaglandin inhibitor and an enhancer of lipolytic activity. I believe it not to be an essential ingredient; indeed, many people are intolerant to Aspirin."

This threads been great, well done to PB for all the info and posters for contributing their experiences with ECA.
 
I started a cycle of this around 3 months ago for a 3 week period, lost around 8lbs with a strict diet and was beasting it on my workouts. Only side effects i had were my face was flushed red during workouts and heart pounding, but not so much that i was worried about anything.
 
absolutely cracking stuff to motivate you in the gym, if your not used to caffeine though i would definitely advise you too start on just a few caffeine tabs before a workout before you get up to dosage with Eph. I have quite a high tolerance to caffeine but my mate never touches it, he was getting a good lift just from caffeine tabs for the first week beofre starting a cycle proper.
 
 

if my eph hcl doesn't turn up tomorrow, I'm going to scream.......!!!!
lol

I still think a monster dose of Tyrosine works well with EC, as an alternative to A. 

Any one ordered of this lot,  http://centurysupplements...phedrine-hcl-150-tabs/
they any good?

bujjaboy


Any one ordered of this lot,  http://centurysupplements...phedrine-hcl-150-tabs/
they any good?

hi - yep, very good.
just don't make the same mistake as I made by only taking 1 tablet instead of 3......lol

dose - 3x 200mg / 3 x 3 x 8mg ephedrine
I've come to the conclusion that I shouldn't take the 3rd dose too close to training.
I was sweating like mad and my hr was about 150bpm without trying too hard.
I'll try half a tablet of caffeine I think tomorrow... :) 

Great thread!
 
I have been taking 1 ECA30+ 4 times a week for the last 2 weeks when training and I can say that it definitely helps with energy and strength. I am going away on holiday in 2 weeks and have some T5 on the way, is it best to take every day regardless of whether I'm training or not as a last push towards my stag do or shall I just stick to taking it before I train?
 
Cheers

I would have to say that using ECA is harmful. Long term effects can include changing your central nervous system processes and metabolic system. There is a reason why Ephedra is illegal in the United States. This is a dangerous supplement so be careful guys. For long term results, go with more traditional enhancing pills.

Rickyboy999


Is ECA simply the best fat burner ever, better than the OTC fat burning supplement's??

 
Yeh pretty, much. But be warned, if your diet is crap and training sub par you will see next to no results apart from feeling like you have necked 4 red bulls. I sorted my buddy out with an ECA stack as he assured me his diet was clean and he didn't lose anything from it because his diet was over maintenance calories and he actually put weight on. 

great article, its a good read thanks for posting

HI people! I was wondering if anyone could help. I have my chesteze and proplus tabs and was going to start my eca stack. I have a few questions before i do.
- Should i ditch the pro plus tabs and get these from tescos? Saves me having a few pro plus tabs as these are 200mg a tab. http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.209-0248.aspx
- Should my dose be 1 and a half tab of chest eze= 27mg Ephedrine  AND the 200mg caffeine tab? I am just going to have one today 30 mins before my session to asses my tolerance. I think i should be okay. I have been using pro oxy elite for the last month.
Should i build up to 2 doses a day or 3?
 
I have my diet in check pretty much and my cardio and weight sessions are pretty intense. For example today i am working Cardio and Back.
- Warm Up 10Mins
- 40 Mins HITT Cardio
- Weights (Back) (Barbell bent over row, back raise, barbell side bend, cable seated close row, dead lift, dumbell bent over row, t bar bent over and zercher squat followed by lunges in the gym car park ( Mates gym, Ronnie Coleman-esque :-) ) The weights are usually three sets in each exercise. 
I am trying to cut this last stubborn stone off and add some definition. Sorry for the long winded dissertation ppl! PLEASE HELP. And thanks in advance to any replies

Freddie_Roach

- Should i ditch the pro plus tabs and get these from tescos? Saves me having a few pro plus tabs as these are 200mg a tab. http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.209-0248.aspx

 
Yes. Sh1t loads cheaper
 
 

- Should my dose be 1 and a half tab of chest eze= 27mg Ephedrine  AND the 200mg caffeine tab?

 
Yes, pretty standard but:
 
 

 
I am just going to have one today 30 mins before my session to asses my tolerance.

 
Good idea.
 
 
 

Should i build up to 2 doses a day or 3?

 
Use the minimum amount of drug that yields a desirable outcome.
 
 
Do cardio AFTER strength training. Do not listen to any "instructor" who tells you otherwise.

I've been considering taking EC recently and am thinking that getting Ephedrine HCL tabs and 200mg caffeine tabs is the best option. What do you guys who have used this before reckon?

Would it be a good idea to start by using the caffeine tabs alone then adding the ephedrine and building up (to 20/25mg per dose)?

I've found, in my experience of course with no hard evidence to back up, that I respond and feel better using a lower caffine dose.
 
I take this twice a day - first thing in the morning - then again around mid day.
 
50 Eph / 70 Caff / 150 Asprin.
 
Hawthorn Berry seems to be working for "flushed cheeks" too ;)

any one with experience of ECA + YOHIMBINE together ?
 
was going to alternate this with clen week on week off ,
 
how did you find the stack , results , feeling while using , sides etc ??

Just interested in the diets you chaps and chapesses are on whilst using the fat burners?
Are you all on low carb diets / keto diets?
 
Or not on them at all?
What diets and routines you doing that have had your best results? I know alot of people who take eph and they think its a silver bullet. Which I suppose it is really.
 
Anyways what diets you on? and what routines please? Just interested as I primarily do heavy compounds, wiht diet and and it seem to work ok for me. How do you guys trim your rind off?
 
 

So this site doesnt ship to the US? Who would?