ECA (Ephedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin)

ORIGINAL: Reggie Died

Partyboy,

I was wondering pretty much the same questoin as Allstar, but more specially was wondring the dosage suggestino of Yohinbime in a E/C/Y stack

E being 24mg
C being 200mg

Also, in a E/C/Y stack, should i toss the aspirin or use it in conjunction? Perhaps only use the Y in the first stack of the day, and let the other two consist of E/C/A? (Eph is easier to come by than Yohimbine)

Thanks

ECY is fairly common. Sorry I don't know the general doses for Y - I've never used or researched it. Perhaps start a thread in the Supps forum

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ORIGINAL: Allstr921

I have a bunch of fat burning supplements in my house and I want to go on a 5 month cut up because I am recovering from shoulder surgery and want to get back into it. This is what I have available:

Clenbuterol
Ephedrine
Green Tea Extract
White Willow bark
Yohimbine HCL
Caffeine pills

A couple of questions I have:

What can I stack with the Clens?

I wouldn't use anything other than green tea at the same time as clen. In your 'off weeks' you could do Eph, caff, wwb, or ECY.

Is it not safe to stack Ephedrine. Caffeine, White Willow Bark, Green Tea Extract and Yohimbine?

Probably o.k. - start on moderate dosages and monitor effects.

Is it safe to take the Green Tea Extract on a normal basis

Yes, many drink green tea instead of 'regular' tea.

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Thank you Partyboy..........your help is always greatly appreciated

I wondered if stackin' eph with that lipo6 stuff by nutrex would be a good idea.
It's got synephrine and caf in it.

Hey PB!
What's the diff between ephedrine and synephrine?

Wondered if anyone could answer a few questions on ephedrine for me.
I've taken it before and didnt see a massive drop in weight but i suppose that was probably due to my diet being a bit rubbish and i wasnt doing much cardio.
Anyway, i've just started taking it again and my diet is clean and i'm doing a lot more cardio, 70% to 80% of weight loss off ephedrine is meant to be down to hunger suppression (which i can believe because i never feel like eating when i take it!) should i force myself to eat when i don't feel like eating? Will forcing myself to eat mean that i'm not going to lose much body fat? My body fat is at 16% and i'm looking at getting it down to 10% with the help of a clean diet, cardio and ephedrine.
If i did not eat properly then would i not be sacrifcing muscle gains in the process? What does everyone else do when they take ephedrine? Do you guys take it purely for the thermogenic effects or do you skip a lot of meals in the process?
Sorry for the long-winded post fellas.

ORIGINAL: mishima

Hey PB!
What's the diff between ephedrine and synephrine?

Synephrine is considered a 'weaker cousin' to ephedrine and is thought to stimulate only beta3 receptors. I wouldn't expect results to be as good as using ephedrine.

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I would never ever skip a meal.

What about using 'em both?

ORIGINAL: AndyJay

should i force myself to eat when i don't feel like eating?

You still need to be eating every 2 or 3 hours to help prevent catabolism and muscle loss. Obviously, the amount of cals required varies between individuals so it is a trial and error situation. If you are not losing as you expect (2lb per week say), reign in your daily calorie intake/increase expenditure.

Will forcing myself to eat mean that i'm not going to lose much body fat?

Depends on the levels of your intake. Yes you will lose more fat if you eat less, though eating much less will leave you wide open to muscle losses.

If i did not eat properly then would i not be sacrifcing muscle gains in the process?

Yes you would, hence the need for a sensible approach and gradual fat loss.

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ORIGINAL: mishima

What about using 'em both?

Theoretically, it is possible. Though I would build up very gradually.

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SO do you just rely on the thermogenic effects? How much weight loss can be expected from the thermogenic effects of ephedrine?

No, you rely on eph also for the appetite suppression, especially later on in a cut when you crave food from long periods of dieting. This is the reason why its often a good idea to cut naturally first, then add the eph when the going gets tough.

The thermic effects are not miraculous. Expect between 3-5% increase in expenditure.

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Cheers mate.
I've read some about stacking eph with yohimbe but feel a bit shy on synephrine.I don't know what to expect from this combination (vasopro&lipo6), for i don't know if proportions are respected.
I'm really foggy on this.

so basically i shouldnt skip any meals and make sure i'm getting the right amount of protein/carbs/fat? I find it hard to eat when on ephedrine and have to force food down, i don't want to skip meals and sacrifice any muscle gains.

Forgot to mention before,
I don't half go to the toilet a lot when i take ephedrine, lost count of the amount of times i've been for a piss... is this normal??

Ill admit I had my doubts about this stack before yesterday, since I have tried fatburners before (ephedra free) and most of them never worked. EC is simply effective. I cant comment on the fat burning abilities of the stack, but for energy boost, damn, it feels great :D I was able to squeeze 10 more min of jogging, 1.2 more miles, and 75 extra calories. But the best was that I wasn't tired after my cardio session, I simply stopped because I was bored of running on a treadmill for 55 minutes.

Anyway, EC = awesome :D

Follow your dream, you can reach your goal, im living proof, BEEFCAKE, BEEFACAKEEE!

ORIGINAL: AndyJay

Forgot to mention before,
I don't half go to the toilet a lot when i take ephedrine, lost count of the amount of times i've been for a piss... is this normal??

Perhaps due to increased fluid intake as recommended for eph users?

Eph itself actually occasionally causes urination difficulties.

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I started my ECY stack yesterday. 1 stacker w/ ephedrine and 1 yohimbine 3 times per day and took one Yohimbine before bed. Waiting for my green tea to get in that i ordered. Might up the Yohimbine to make it alil stronger.

can ephedrine be used on its own ?

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