EPO (Erythropoietin) - Administration???

How is EPO administered andis it fairly rare? I was looking for a supplement to raise my VO2 maxhowever some recommended VO2 max. Now i know most olympians use it butwas wondering how was administred

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i studied EPO and its use in sport a lot in my final year at uni, i would ask yourself if you really need to use it.

what sport do you compete in?

Big D.. got any links or info I could read for more info on EPO (for use by an mma fighter)

A really dangerous med in uneducated hands...

Best left alone guys IMO

Its used sub-q but as Mick said its dodgy stuff. As with slin if you don't know what your doing you can be in a world of hurt!

And the possibility of turning your blood like treacle

Yeah one of the side effects if not used properly is death! Not good,, however like insulin in the right hands used roperly it has a place (more in endurance sports than bodybuilding tho)

The majority of users - 99% do not need this mate...

those guys at the top end of the sport maybe..

but for the most - no need

EPO is safe if used properly, much safer than AAS with no sides, anyone who has used it would testify.  I ran a cycle of EPO several months ago but stopped as I had to run a maintenance dosage of 8000iu a week to keep my hematocrit levels stable, which ended up costing me way too much money.  If only it was much cheaper I would run it forever, you aint gonna get 'sludgy blood' unless you inj a ridiculous amount, a typical vial of 4000iu shot would raise you red cells by .3%, steroids can raise red cells by up to 10%, so think how much epo you would have to inj?  only a complete moron with no knowledge would over do it.
You'd prob need about 96000iu to raise your desired hematocrit then run a maintenance dose every couple of weeks, important to get regular blood tests though

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EPO is safe if used properly, much safer than AAS with no sides, anyone who has used it would testify.  I ran a cycle of EPO several months ago but stopped as I had to run a maintenance dosage of 8000iu a week to keep my hematocrit levels stable, which ended up costing me way too much money.  If only it was much cheaper I would run it forever, you aint gonna get 'sludgy blood' unless you inj a ridiculous amount, a typical vial of 4000iu shot would raise you red cells by .3%, steroids can raise red cells by up to 10%, so think how much epo you would have to inj?  only a complete moron with no knowledge would over do it.
You'd prob need about 96000iu to raise your desired hematocrit then run a maintenance dose every couple of weeks, important to get regular blood tests though

you mean a complete moron like a pro cyclists, with team doctors? hmmm you're making it sound MUCH safer and simpler to use than it is, i agree i have a probably over cautious opinion on it due to learning about it from university tutors, but i learnt enough on my own to realise its not needed for most people. even your comment re: raising of blood cells against AAS and cost is enough to realise that using high doses of a med most dont understand is not worth it. i speak to pro athletes that use it in their opinion safely and my view still remains the same. it is not to be used by a reccy trainer with no medical/pro team support.

yiddo


Big D.. got any links or info I could read for more info on EPO (for use by an mma fighter)

i do mate but its filed all back at my mum's and will be over 18 months old now, i'll have alook when i move back next week, i may be able to put you in touch with an mma fighter thats used it a couple of times, i think he still reads this board but doesnt post, so i'll ask him to contact you if he's comfortable with it.

Cheers Big D that'd be good