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EPO (Erythropoietin) - Administration???

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2008/09/22 17:06:19 (permalink)

EPO (Erythropoietin) - Administration???

How is EPO administered andis it fairly rare? I was looking for a supplement to raise my VO2 maxhowever some recommended VO2 max. Now i know most olympians use it butwas wondering how was administred
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    Re:EPO (Erythropoietin) - Administration and Availability??? 2008/09/22 19:14:10 (permalink)
    sub - q

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    Re:EPO (Erythropoietin) - Administration??? 2008/09/22 22:14:59 (permalink)
    Sub-Q?     
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    Re:EPO (Erythropoietin) - Administration??? 2008/09/22 22:21:44 (permalink)
    i studied EPO and its use in sport a lot in my final year at uni, i would ask yourself if you really need to use it.

    what sport do you compete in?
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    Re:EPO (Erythropoietin) - Administration??? 2008/09/22 23:25:28 (permalink)
    Big D.. got any links or info I could read for more info on EPO (for use by an mma fighter)
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    Re:EPO (Erythropoietin) - Administration??? 2008/09/23 08:27:31 (permalink)

    A really dangerous med in uneducated hands...

    Best left alone guys IMO

     
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    Re:EPO (Erythropoietin) - Administration??? 2008/09/23 10:43:55 (permalink)
    Its used sub-q but as Mick said its dodgy stuff. As with slin if you don't know what your doing you can be in a world of hurt!

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    Re:EPO (Erythropoietin) - Administration??? 2008/09/23 10:45:54 (permalink)

    And the possibility of turning your blood like treacle

     
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    Re:EPO (Erythropoietin) - Administration??? 2008/09/23 11:06:45 (permalink)
    Yeah one of the side effects if not used properly is death! Not good,, however like insulin in the right hands used roperly it has a place (more in endurance sports than bodybuilding tho)
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    Re:EPO (Erythropoietin) - Administration??? 2008/09/23 11:11:24 (permalink)

    The majority of users - 99% do not need this mate...

    those guys at the top end of the sport maybe..

    but for the most - no need

     
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    Re:EPO (Erythropoietin) - Administration??? 2008/09/23 21:14:20 (permalink)
    EPO is safe if used properly, much safer than AAS with no sides, anyone who has used it would testify.  I ran a cycle of EPO several months ago but stopped as I had to run a maintenance dosage of 8000iu a week to keep my hematocrit levels stable, which ended up costing me way too much money.  If only it was much cheaper I would run it forever, you aint gonna get 'sludgy blood' unless you inj a ridiculous amount, a typical vial of 4000iu shot would raise you red cells by .3%, steroids can raise red cells by up to 10%, so think how much epo you would have to inj?  only a complete moron with no knowledge would over do it.
    You'd prob need about 96000iu to raise your desired hematocrit then run a maintenance dose every couple of weeks, important to get regular blood tests though
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    Re:EPO (Erythropoietin) - Administration??? 2008/09/23 22:55:51 (permalink)
    fugi1

    EPO is safe if used properly, much safer than AAS with no sides, anyone who has used it would testify.  I ran a cycle of EPO several months ago but stopped as I had to run a maintenance dosage of 8000iu a week to keep my hematocrit levels stable, which ended up costing me way too much money.  If only it was much cheaper I would run it forever, you aint gonna get 'sludgy blood' unless you inj a ridiculous amount, a typical vial of 4000iu shot would raise you red cells by .3%, steroids can raise red cells by up to 10%, so think how much epo you would have to inj?  only a complete moron with no knowledge would over do it.
    You'd prob need about 96000iu to raise your desired hematocrit then run a maintenance dose every couple of weeks, important to get regular blood tests though


    you mean a complete moron like a pro cyclists, with team doctors? hmmm you're making it sound MUCH safer and simpler to use than it is, i agree i have a probably over cautious opinion on it due to learning about it from university tutors, but i learnt enough on my own to realise its not needed for most people. even your comment re: raising of blood cells against AAS and cost is enough to realise that using high doses of a med most dont understand is not worth it. i speak to pro athletes that use it in their opinion safely and my view still remains the same. it is not to be used by a reccy trainer with no medical/pro team support.

    yiddo

    Big D.. got any links or info I could read for more info on EPO (for use by an mma fighter)


    i do mate but its filed all back at my mum's and will be over 18 months old now, i'll have alook when i move back next week, i may be able to put you in touch with an mma fighter thats used it a couple of times, i think he still reads this board but doesnt post, so i'll ask him to contact you if he's comfortable with it.


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    Re:EPO (Erythropoietin) - Administration??? 2008/09/24 00:11:02 (permalink)
    Cheers Big D that'd be good
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