Extreme strength gains Epi / tren

Hi just wanted to say on 14th days of Epi / tren cycle first one,

First before i went spain 9 weeks ago my personal bests were, 

bench - 95kg for 12, 100 for 4 
squat - 110 for 8 - 4 sets
deadlift - 100 for 6 tight hips and hammys

on return and 2 weeks in on cycle

today did bench and it looked like this

60kg for 12 x2 - 90kg for 12, 100kg for 10, 110 for 10 - 2 assisted, 120kg for 4 - 1 assisted

strength thru the roof and im not strength training im in hypertrophy range.

deadlift - 150 kg for 2 tried it someone was deadlifting i was warm so just jumped in

squat - 130 for 8

so far the cycle is going well, i would like a 130 bench in next 2 weeks, but after my sets if i prepared and just done low reps i think i would get it now


So a good recommendation so far

you are nowhere near your gentic potential in terms of lifts (assuming you have at least average genetics), so a steroid cycle will increase your lifts quite a bit. 

Personally, I think far too many people use steroids earlier than the stage at which they'd see maximum benefits from them.

Glad to see the cycle's going well for you though.  What do you have in mind for PCT?

Yeah to be honest have done it to early, just thought I would try it for 4 weeks, yeah in terms of lifts Deads and squats no way near as flexibility not great working on freeing my psoas and rec fem so my pelvis alignment is more neutral opposed to an anterior pelvic tilt,

I was gonna run activate xtreme and lean xtreme and gaspari novedex and i will run them as i have them already, and have Nolvadex on hand not sure if im gonna run it yet probably will.

In respect to my normally cycle assist, i take co q10, ast multi pro multi vits, 10000mg of omega 3s, cod liver oil, 2000mg of glucosomine, cal- mag,  and 1000mg milk thistle but i normally do that anyway.

as i work long hours and train hard so try keep my health at optimum levels.

what would you recomend for pct

none are injectables they are the designer riods what competive edge sell

i'd run the lean xtreme and novedex XT, then run the activate xtreme after PCT. 

Personally, I'd run the nolva with the lean xtreme

Cheers Daari, can you give an example,

so maybe 3 weeks of lean xtreme and gaspari novedex 3 caps a night

What dosage on NOLVA please

Then run the activate xtreme after that for 3 weeks how thats sound,

also you think i should add little supps like ZMA in, or you think that wont have any benefit at all

i already take GABA for deep sleeps

week 1 = 3 caps novedex + 4 caps lean xtreme
week 2 = 3 caps novedex + 4 caps lean xtreme
week 3 = 2 caps novedex + 3 caps lean xtreme

In the last week you only have 4 caps of novedex and 13 caps of lean xtreme.  Run the novedex at a cap a day alongside 2 caps of lean xtreme until they run out.

If using nolva then;

week 1 = 40mg nolva + 4 caps lean xtreme
week 2 = 40mg nolva + 4 caps lean Xtreme
week 3 = 20mg nolva + 3 caps lean xtreme
week 4 = 20mg nolva + 2 caps lean xtreme (on the last day, just a single cap as only one will be left)

You could add ZMA if you want, i find no benefit in doing so, personally.

Thanks for the reply, if i run it like that i will run the activate xtreme after the 4 weeks, 

do you think Nolva is ok for a mild cycle epi / tren or do you think i should go with the OTC pct


thanks again

I would use the nolva, at the minimum of this dosage;

Days 1-11 = 40mg
days 12-21 = 20mg

I always favour SERMS where possible.

I'd run the activate xtreme straight after PCT

thanks so nolva and lean x treme, then the activate xtreme,  what about the gaspari novedex shall i run that at the same time as the activate xtreme after pct

could do