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 First Cycle Cutting With Var or HGH?


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Mark S

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First Cycle Cutting With Var or HGH? 21 January 2012 19:39 (permalink)
Hi Guys,
 
I'm considering doing either a mild dose of anavar or hgh. My aim is to lose at least 4 % of bodyfat.
 
I'm 6ft 4, weight 14 10 and have been training for about 4 years serious now. I would estimate I'm at 12% body fat, my abs are clearly visible.
 
Overall I'm happy with my physic, strengths pretty good but I know if I start removing more carbs from diet, I'm going to start losing strength. I do however want to drop bodyfat so I need to drop a few more carbs. My diet is pretty regimental, I can post if people are interested? 
 
I've spoke to a friend who recommended what seamed like quite a low dose compared to what others on here take  Anavar (30mg) or the other obviously more expensive option HGH.
 
Anyway enough about me what would you do?
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    Re:First Cycle Cutting With Var or HGH? 21 January 2012 20:47 (permalink)
    keep everything the same, diet and training wise, just increase your low intensity CV.
    New cycle 3rd May 2012
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      Re:First Cycle Cutting With Var or HGH? 21 January 2012 23:14 (permalink)
      MRENIGMA


      keep everything the same, diet and training wise, just increase your low intensity CV.

       
      Thanks, would you do Var or Hgh? :)
       
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        Re:First Cycle Cutting With Var or HGH? 22 January 2012 00:26 (permalink)
        Im just over 3 weeks of var (100mg) and tren(19-nor tren, that is..100mg)
         
        Lost about 1 kg in weight, strength is slightly up considering my daily calorie intake is about 200-300 less then maintenence. Can notice a slight reduction in bodyfat around my stomach/abs, although its probably a combination of eating less (carbs), more cardio and taking the var and tren
         
        Dont expect to lose 4% bf though, i'd say 1-2% at most
         
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          Re:First Cycle Cutting With Var or HGH? 22 January 2012 07:58 (permalink)
          tbh mate i would do neither considering cost.
           
          60mg tbol ed would suffice
           
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            Re:First Cycle Cutting With Var or HGH? 22 January 2012 10:24 (permalink)
            I have considered tbol but I know a few guys who've done tbol and I personally think they body comp changed too much, became very obvious that they had taken some gear. Also they both got atrocious spots when they came off.
             
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              Re:First Cycle Cutting With Var or HGH? 22 January 2012 11:42 (permalink)
              Var.
              New cycle 3rd May 2012
              12 weeks
              2ml tri-test500
              Starting weight 88kg
              Finish weight ??kg

               

               
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                Re:First Cycle Cutting With Var or HGH? 22 January 2012 12:17 (permalink)
                I'd just use test @ 250 a week.


                You'll save a lot of money if you opt for this over var.


                I'd forget hgh for the time being, it is useful for fat loss but it's more of a cherry on the cake thing.
                http://www.ugm.org.uk 
                Another interesting place!

                 
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                  Re:First Cycle Cutting With Var or HGH? 22 January 2012 21:43 (permalink)
                  Thanks for the advice guys, I think its going to be var. Is 30mg going to suffice for my goals?
                   
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                    Re:First Cycle Cutting With Var or HGH? 22 January 2012 21:49 (permalink)
                    Not really, 40-80mg is more common, i know people that have had great success at 40mg, but most run 60-80mg to notice a decent return.
                    New cycle 3rd May 2012
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                    2ml tri-test500
                    Starting weight 88kg
                    Finish weight ??kg

                     

                     
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                      Re:First Cycle Cutting With Var or HGH? 22 January 2012 22:20 (permalink)
                      Whats a reasonable amount of time to do say 60mg then?
                       
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                        Re:First Cycle Cutting With Var or HGH? 22 January 2012 22:27 (permalink)
                        i've ran oxy @ 50mg for 90days.......so i'm not best person to ask lol
                         
                        6-8weeks will be a sensible reply
                        New cycle 3rd May 2012
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                        2ml tri-test500
                        Starting weight 88kg
                        Finish weight ??kg

                         

                         
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                          Re:First Cycle Cutting With Var or HGH? 22 January 2012 23:19 (permalink)
                          Your poor liver. 
                           
                          I've read of much, much worse though! 
                           
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                            Re:First Cycle Cutting With Var or HGH? 23 January 2012 10:56 (permalink)
                            8-10 weeks imo
                            http://www.ugm.org.uk 
                            Another interesting place!

                             
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                              Re:First Cycle Cutting With Var or HGH? 23 January 2012 11:18 (permalink)
                              Mark S


                              Your poor liver. 

                              I've read of much, much worse though! 

                              Never mind his poor liver... Im concerned about your poor wallet.
                              You want to do a standard dose of Var for say 8 weeks, its going to cost you an alarming ammount of cash. 3 figures.
                              Didnt someone reccomend Test E @ 250mg ew? Do that for 10 weeks with strict diet and training, save your liver, save a sh*t lod of cash, and shed some fat...

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