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First cycle opinions please
01 February 2012 12:16
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Hi Guys, Another thread on first cycle advice i know, but you guys seem really good at passing opinions on this so any advice would be much appreciated. 29 years old here, 5'11, 106.5kg (around 16.5 stone), been training for two years and only run PH cycles in the past. This is whats been recommended to me: 10 WEEK CYCLE break down like this: - Weeks 1-3: 30mg DIANABOL every day - Weeks 1-10: 500mg TEST-E once a week And then the PCT i will start around two weeks after my last injection will be clomid and nolva, however if i start getting itchy nips, i'll drop the nolva in early. I know it's a short and light cycle, but I'm starting light and then can go for heavier cycles further along. I'm eating big and clean, always have done, and getting the rest i need and training well. Will probably try get some bloodwork done before i start this at the end of this month. Any opinions would be really appreciated. Thanks guys.
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Re:First cycle opinions please
01 February 2012 12:34
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Looks good mate although for a first ever cycle, I would drop the D-bol and just go with the Test at 500mg/wk. Make sure you have the Nolva available throughout just incase of gyno and enjoy mate! Bigfella.
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Re:First cycle opinions please
01 February 2012 12:37
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Thanks man. And yes, a couple of people have suggested dropping the dbol entirely for the first cycle. But as the Test E wont kick in properly until the second or third week of the cycle, the Dbol was suggested to get things going and then taper off once the Test kicks in? Will have the nolva on hand in case of gyno for sure.
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Re:First cycle opinions please
01 February 2012 12:45
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Test starts working within hours of its first admin, although levels won't reach peak cycle values for a few weeks, it is there and already working mate so no need to kick-start a first cycle IMHO just run it straight andsee how you go. Plenty of time to add other meds in future cycles but you can gain massively on first one so no need for additions mate. Bigfella.
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Re:First cycle opinions please
01 February 2012 12:49
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It's best to take one compound at a time, then you can deal with the side effect, yes the test takes a few weeks and you will be able to react to the side effects nicely Dbol comes on thick and fast you may develop gyno fast and blow up like a balloon with water retention, so it's best to learn how you react with each compound one at a time. Minger
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Re:First cycle opinions please
01 February 2012 13:02
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This is great thanks guys. Will pick up some dbol anyway, but will probably now keep that on the shelf until i'm ready to use it after this cycle. Any advice on how to keep the gains once my cycle finishes? I'm planning on just keeping my calories as high as possible throughout and over the weeks after my cycle ends and through my PCT...
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Re:First cycle opinions please
01 February 2012 13:57
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Yep train hard but smart during pct, don't spend hours in the gym cause you'll be very catabolic keep the workouts short but intence through out pct. Minger
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Re:First cycle opinions please
02 February 2012 12:36
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OK, so i'm going to stick with my original first course of Test E, but a good friend is swearing i'm making a mistake and i should run the following cycle as my first one. ** 2 injections a week for 10 weeks ** Each injection has 1ml 250mg Sust and 1ml 200mg Deca This is the cycle i originally was going to go for as my first. But i decided to strip it down to just Test to see how my body reacts. But im thinking i might not make the gains i would make if i did this cycle above. What do you guys think? Also been reccommended i should pick up some arimidex to stop oestrogen production, as nolva really only stops the effect of oestrogen on breast tissue. Is this a good idea? Thanks fellas
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Re:First cycle opinions please
02 February 2012 13:32
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I don't think you make more gains by adding more compounds otherwise people's cycles would be stupid. You will gain the most muscle from your first cycle of just test, as long as your diet and training are spot on. once you are no longer making the same amount of gains you then start to add other compounds such as deca or tren etc... Minger
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Re:First cycle opinions please
02 February 2012 14:25
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This is true, thanks Minger. Also, as im planning on doing one injection a week of Test E 500mg, i've been told that If you do fewer injections but greater volume in each, then you will have peaks and troughs in the availability of the test in your body, so would it be may be a good idea to split the test E 500mg over two injections a week? Did anyone else do this?
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Re:First cycle opinions please
02 February 2012 14:37
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Aye usually I split into every 4 or 5 days so 250mg mon and 250mg thur or fri. Minger
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Re:First cycle opinions please
02 February 2012 14:40
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Brilliant. Thanks guys.
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Re:First cycle opinions please
02 February 2012 18:00
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Should I should pick up some arimidex to stop the excessive oestrogen production towards the end of my cycle, or will the nolva be enough? Just wanna make sure i have everything...
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Re:First cycle opinions please
02 February 2012 20:49
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Nolva is more than plenty on a test only cycle m8 :-) Minger
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Re:First cycle opinions please
02 February 2012 20:52
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Do as suggested by Bigfella and minger, eat plenty ,train hard and grow like a weed. Enjoy
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