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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/01 16:29:06 (permalink)
I was tired today. It took me until 2pm to get some kind of gumption in my system (whatever ‘gumption’ may be but it’s an underused word I think, and probably the first time ever it’s been used on MT. I may check), to get my act together and visit the temple of iron where legends are made, first visit since Thursday slap-on-wrist.
That’s not to say I didn’t put the effort in and although I didn’t go heavy on very much, I did my best – otherwise what on Earth is the point of training at all?
 
Reason for the fatigue? I was out yesterday afternoon with my best buddies enjoying some sociables, quaffing a splendid array of golden ales and rabbiting on about putting the world to rights Apart from family, my mates are (and always will be) the ONLY reason I give the gym a wide berth. You should always keep in touch with your friends.
 
So enough warbling.
Today I needed to catch up on my long-disused and neglected back, and those dilapidated items of mine known as shoulders (or spindly, gnarled tree twigs in my case). Hate shoulders with a vengeance, but they have to be done, otherwise the heaviness of my arms drags them forwards and all manner of pain erupts. On with it then…  
 
Sunday 1/5/16 – Back/shoulders/biceps (+bit of chest initially):
 
1. CG BB press:
25x30 warm-up
 
2. Incline E-Z bar press (pushing forward, as in JM-style):
15°: 12x30
30°: 12x35
*Got the JM idea from Dave the Ox last week. Adapted it today for use with the E-Z bar just for something different. Like.
 
3. DB press, 15° incline:
12x22’s
12x24’s
*See from the piffling weight that my shoulders are weak as pigsh!t. Hate exercises like that.
 
4. Single-arm kneeling DB row, alt.:
6x34, 6x36, 6x38
*Tend to forget about these. Note to self: Must add to my programme as a regular attraction.
 
5. Seated rows:
Hammer bar: 10x47, 10x53, 10x59
Straight bar, hands wide: 25x53, 15x59 high reps.
 
6. Lat pulldown, underarm bicep grip:
10x50, 10x60
6x65
6x70
25x35, 15x40 high reps
 
7. Single arm low row, alt.:
8x75, 8x80, 8x85
6x90, 6x95, 6x100
*Find I can lift more weight with one arm than two on this. Why is that?
 
8. DB curl (using preacher bench):
5x16, 5x18
 
9. CG E-Z curl, low vertical pull (preacher):
6x30, 6x35, 6x43
20x23 high reps
15x30 slow reps
*Killer on that last set. Biceps pumped like a gud ‘un.
 
8. Ab crunches:
50x45
20x55
 
                                                                                                     
Time: 1hr. 20mins.
 
 
As it happened, not a bad workout but I know my shoulders will be feeling very sore especially later on.
 
Out later with Mrs. Floydysaurus for tea (that’s Yorkshire-speak for dinner btw).
Tomorrow, back on legs, which I’m enjoying immensely right now.
 
Thanks for reading, enjoy the bank hol chaps.
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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/02 09:00:21 (permalink)
Solid graft there Loz. Look forward to reading about today's exploits x

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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/02 11:49:05 (permalink)
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Solid graft there Loz. Look forward to reading about today's exploits x


Cheers Deano, much appreciated
Yep, back on legs today for an 'interim' session. Nothing too crazy.
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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/02 12:03:56 (permalink)
See! Huge session there mate...those adapted jm presses sound interesting mate.

 
 
 
 
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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/02 12:10:41 (permalink)
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See! Huge session there mate...those adapted jm presses sound interesting mate.

Give 'em a go mate. I found they were more comfortable with the E-Z bar. Off to do my legs session now....
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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/02 12:30:50 (permalink)
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See! Huge session there mate...those adapted jm presses sound interesting mate.

Give 'em a go mate. I found they were more comfortable with the E-Z bar. Off to do my legs session now....

I will mate, cheers 🍻 have a good one mate 💪

 
 
 
 
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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/02 14:35:33 (permalink)
Back then with today’s “planned” interim session for legs, which actually turned out to be a bit of a grueller. These slimmed down efforts are meant to be an extra session I need to slot in between the heavy stuff, but like all of us, we cannot simply plod along without pushing ourselves to the limit. But minus a few sets and silly things such as abductors etc, which feature in the ‘heavy’ full sessions, this afternoon was no gentle walk in the park…
 
Monday 2/5/16 – Legs (interim session):
 
1. Incline press:
15x200 warm-up
10x250
10x300
10x350 PB (reps) - No ‘dancing’ smiley for just a reps PB in my book.
6x370
At this stage I was umming and arring about the 400, which I hit last time as a personal best. But I thought if I went for it and equalled the PB that wouldn’t be much to shout about. So I skipped it and added another 10 instead (as you do)….
6x410 PB
*Admittedly, I didn’t go very deep with these last six reps, but a lift all the same. Quite honestly I was scared to in case I couldn’t get the plate up again and lock it in place, so only down to the safety bar. It will happen.
25x150 high reps
 
2. Hack squat:
6x200
6x250 PB
6x270 PB
*Finding these relatively straightforward. Nice, deep crouch and up again. Don’t half feel it on the top of the quads. Super-happy.
 
3. Horizontal leg press:
10x200 – 4 sets
*2 breaths between the first three sets only.
 
4. Extensions:
10x80
10x90
10x100
 
5. Seated reverse curl:
5x75
5x80
5x85
5x90
*Pretty beat by the time I got to this, so no further attempt to gain a PB there.
 
8. Ab crunches:
50x45
20x55
 
 
All went very well today, three PB’s (+ the one for reps) I didn’t expect. Job’s a good ‘un.
 
Thanks for reading, enjoy the rest of the holiday lads. I’m back at work tonight.
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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/03 15:19:58 (permalink)
Looking back at my recent legs sessions in particular, it's all very well getting excited about the prospect of hitting those PBs, which tend to be almost commonplace at the moment, but is this actually proving anything? Is there any point to it? I'm no strongman and I'm not training for anything in particular, it's for my personal upkeep, fitness and the struggle to maintain my form.
 
I'm enjoying doing the heavy stuff very much but I guess I'm pondering the question 'Would it be more sensible to remain at a specific max weight, say 300kg on the leg press which is perhaps 2/3 of my PB and do more reps and sets than constantly strive to go heavier all the time?' - because I'm banging on those weights without any thought for the slow, controlled lifting which can work the same as going so absolutely heavy all the time? I'm sure this would have similar, if not more beneficial gains.
 
Anyway, I'll still try to get the PB's occasionally in some sessions (because it's an ego boost), but I'm going to write an alternative programme which focusses on a more conventional method. This will cover all my routines, not just legs, beginning tomorrow with the chest and triceps.
 
Time to install that Word table and sort something out...
 
 
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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/03 19:54:14 (permalink)
PB city mate.
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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/03 21:03:21 (permalink)
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PB city mate.


It was mate. new lease of life (how many times have I said that?).
Honestly, I'm sorted this time
 
As mentioned earlier, I've updates my programme to change the 'mid-week' legs session to one which I use fixed weights instead of going balls-out; Curtailing the leg press for instance at 300kgs, but doing more sets and reps. All the other sessions will stay the same as to keep me motivated and interested. I'm the last person who gets set in his ways.
Chest tomorrow then.
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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/03 22:24:41 (permalink)
Couple of nice sessions mate.
 
The PB thing is weird, as you say, you don't have any specific goals so they don't really have any relevance, however, It's a bloke thing in my opinion. Always wanting to try and beat your own numbers and competing with yourself. I wouldn't worry about whether they are productive/beneficial, just keep going and if a new PB happens it happens. 
 
 

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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/04 00:58:45 (permalink)
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Couple of nice sessions mate.
 
The PB thing is weird, as you say, you don't have any specific goals so they don't really have any relevance, however, It's a bloke thing in my opinion. Always wanting to try and beat your own numbers and competing with yourself. I wouldn't worry about whether they are productive/beneficial, just keep going and if a new PB happens it happens. 
 
 


Very true mate, thanks I'm in a good spot right now and it's best if I don't push things. However, as you say, if the PB is on the cards I might as well go for it.
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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/04 10:35:56 (permalink)
A PB can easily be an extra rep on a certain weight too, doesn't have to be top end stuff all the time where it does the real damage.  

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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/04 15:11:31 (permalink)
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A PB can easily be an extra rep on a certain weight too, doesn't have to be top end stuff all the time where it does the real damage.  


Quite right mate, thanks
I'm just a very restless individual at times, never quite satisfied. I really should be content with the way things are going right now tbh
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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/04 17:20:46 (permalink)
This afternoon’s mid-week session was my first using a lighter, mid-range weights system, ditching the urge to go heavier each set, which although tempting it burns me out too fast. Instead I would perform a number of sets using a chosen fixed weight but keeping the reps low and slow…
 
Wednesday 4/5/16 – Chest+tri’s:
 
1. Bench:
20x20 bar (warm-up)
5x60 (4 sets)
*God, it’s so tempting to add weight, but the name of the game was more reps, less heavy today, so be it.
 
2. E-Z forward press (JM-style adaptation), 30° incline:
6x35 (4 sets)
*I definitely do like these. Once you get your balance (best if you focus on a girder on the ceiling), they go very well. Lots of tension on the triceps, neck and shoulders.
 
3. DB press:
6x26 (3 sets)
 
4. Seated chest press (stack machine):
5x80 (4 sets)
5x90 (4 sets)
 
5. Triceps pulldown:
6x40 (4 sets)
 
6. Single DB raise:
12x50 (5 sets)
*A complete killer to finish with.
 
7. Ab crunches:
50x45
20x55
 
 
It was very strange not allowing myself to go heavier, as is my usual urge, but I still felt the effects of all this. Maybe interject this sort of session every couple of weeks or so into my programme.
Very much looking forward to trying this out for my legs session on Friday.
 
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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/04 19:55:01 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Floydy 2016/05/04 21:35:21
Solid work Loz. I would say go for the PB's but only do so if form is not sacrificed...that way it will actual benefit you in terms of growth/strength and also not put you at risk of injury. If they feel good adding weight and you're doing the lift properly then go for it if you enjoy it!

 
 
 
 
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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/04 21:36:52 (permalink)
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Solid work Loz. I would say go for the PB's but only do so if form is not sacrificed...that way it will actual benefit you in terms of growth/strength and also not put you at risk of injury. If they feel good adding weight and you're doing the lift properly then go for it if you enjoy it!


Thanks mate, yes that's it. Not worth destroying my back, etc forevermore for the sake of a single PB
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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/05 16:39:07 (permalink)
Today I could very well have sat in the garden all afternoon drinking orange juice and eating ice cream, but my head was ‘up for a session’ and so to the gym I marched (well, drove).
 
To start with, I wasn’t in the best of moods emotionally after getting tangled up in a thread on here. Things escalated and I ended up defending my situation a little too much. Those guys are only trying to help and I was getting agitated, so that was on my mind all through training.
 
My new ‘fixed weights’ interim legs session went rather well, although towards the end I was gasping a little and did miss out a couple of exercises. Better than nothing though and I worked up a good old sweat…
 
Thursday 5/5/16 – Legs
 
1. Incline press:
15x150 (warm-up)
10x250 – 4 sets
8x300 – 4 sets
50x120, 25x170 high reps
 
2. Hack squat:
8x150 – 4 sets
5x200 – 2 sets
 
3. Extensions:
6x80 – 2 sets
6x90 – 2 sets
4x100 – 4 sets (slow, pause at top, no rest)
 
4. Reverse leg curl, seated:
6x70 – 4 sets
25x40 high reps
 
5. Seated horizontal press:
10x200 – 4 sets
 
6. Incline press (final fast ½ way presses):
50x150
 
Missed out the ab crunches today. Too knackered.
 
 
Thanks for reading fellas.
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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/05 17:35:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Floydy 2016/05/05 17:58:34
Booooooooom. Another couple of belters mate!

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Re: Floydy: Training for Tenerife 2016/05/05 18:01:30 (permalink)
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Booooooooom. Another couple of belters mate!

Cheers Deano :)
Keeping it going mate, but it was a tough one today.
I needed a large net and a winch to get me out of the garden. Tomorrow, time to chill at last.
Probably be chucking it down now!
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