Formula 1 2009 season

Varg the appeal was not turned down. Williams withdrew the appeal and it was against both Ferrari and Red Bull. You mention 'loophole'. Is it a loophole that Brawn, Toyota and Williams have larger diffusers. Maybe Ferrari just took the rules differently as is the case with these other 3 teams.

1-barichello
2-button
3-massa
4-kubica

the toyaotas will finish at least midfield

hamilton wont finish the race.  he has shown hes not a good driver when under pressure or starting further back. I think he will crash out, probably a little bit deliberately/recklessly, probably taking somone else out as well

CloudStrife, I said loophole but really I mean just finding an advantage that the rules allow, that the other teams haven't thought of.

Every team does it, and Ferarri are masters of pushing the boundaries in this regard.

To be honest I don't know the details of the diffuser issue in detail though.

dazc


1-barichello
2-button
3-massa
4-kubica

the toyaotas will finish at least midfield

hamilton wont finish the race.  he has shown hes not a good driver when under pressure or starting further back. I think he will crash out, probably a little bit deliberately/recklessly, probably taking somone else out as well

God good man give iy a rest at the Mailton attacks, in the past tho when hes been left at the back of the pack thats when he has done his best driving, tho doubtful he wont be able to do much with his car the way it is at the moment.

dazc

hamilton wont finish the race.  he has shown hes not a good driver when under pressure or starting further back. I think he will crash out, probably a little bit deliberately/recklessly, probably taking somone else out as well

LOL deluded.

Brawn look far quicker than the rest of the field when you look at the race fuel as well, Button to runn 22 lap first stint, Rubens to run 23 laps.
Vettel 20 laps, Kubica just 17 laps, Rosberg 20 laps, Massa just 18 laps.

Ferrari well off the pace.

why is it deluded? last year he could have had it in the bag earlier than he did had he stayed calm, but he didnt he lost his head.

last race of the season, the entire commentry was about wether he could stay mature enough to secure the points and win the championship.

the brawns were some of the heaviest cars, and settig the best times,  i wonder if they will go even quicker with less fuel load, or if they have a car that actually works better when slightly heavier?

cu3ed



God good man give iy a rest at the Mailton attacks, in the past tho when hes been left at the back of the pack thats when he has done his best driving, tho doubtful he wont be able to do much with his car the way it is at the moment.

im presuming this says 'good god man give it a rest with the hamilton attacks'?
 
where did i attack him, i merely gave my opinion about what will happen, i dont think he is mature enough to cope well with the position he is in, i may be proved wrong.  Your attacks on button have been far more personal.  But thats somehow allowed because its your opinion?
 
you like hamilton i dont,  i like button you dont.  lets leave it at that

dazc


why is it deluded? last year he could have had it in the bag earlier than he did had he stayed calm, but he didnt he lost his head.

last race of the season, the entire commentry was about wether he could stay mature enough to secure the points and win the championship.

the brawns were some of the heaviest cars, and settig the best times,  i wonder if they will go even quicker with less fuel load, or if they have a car that actually works better when slightly heavier?

Its was his 2nd season, he can do mistakes the rest of the early upcomers where doing, and alot of the time he came off the track was when he was chasing down postitions, not because he needed the points but because he wanted more podium finishes, isnt it funny that what the whole FIA are trying to make happin in this season?

Talk abit Kimi taking off (cant remember his name) who was gonna get 3rd and would very unlikly ever get that again for that team, Kimi was a dick and said nothing about it, why doesnt he get the same slagging treatment, Or Massa coming out of the pit lane to shove the Red Bull car off track but then it was the Red Bull tem got penalised for it, why dont poeple bitch bout this so much?

cu3ed

dazc


why is it deluded? last year he could have had it in the bag earlier than he did had he stayed calm, but he didnt he lost his head.

last race of the season, the entire commentry was about wether he could stay mature enough to secure the points and win the championship.

the brawns were some of the heaviest cars, and settig the best times,  i wonder if they will go even quicker with less fuel load, or if they have a car that actually works better when slightly heavier?

Its was his 2nd season, he can do mistakes the rest of the early upcomers where doing, and alot of the time he came off the track was when he was chasing down postitions, not because he needed the points but because he wanted more podium finishes, isnt it funny that what the whole FIA are trying to make happin in this season?

Talk abit Kimi taking off (cant remember his name) who was gonna get 3rd and would very unlikly ever get that again for that team, Kimi was a dick and said nothing about it, why doesnt he get the same slagging treatment, Or Massa coming out of the pit lane to shove the Red Bull car off track but then it was the Red Bull tem got penalised for it, why dont poeple bitch bout this so much?

actually i do, there were lots of decisions made last year that were questionable to say the least, where drivers recieved very different treatment.  It was a ploy by bernie and the FIA to get the championship down to the last race.  bernie himself said as much, asked at the end of last season by brundle why it was that it was working out that the championships had come down to the wire in recent series and that some people thought it was a ploy to keep F1 interesting, his reply was 'funny that isnt it' with a smile on his face.
biggest injustice of recent years was schumacher winning a championship by deliberately crashing into people. 

Cued you talking about Kimi going into the back of Bourdais at Monaco. This was an accident. You cannot accuse Kimi of malicios intent.

CloudStrife


Cued you talking about Kimi going into the back of Bourdais at Monaco. This was an accident. You cannot accuse Kimi of malicios intent.

But he did it when gunning like mad for position, much in the same way Hamilton screws up when desperatly trying to catch a corner.

I felt gutted for him when that happinned.

dazc

cu3ed

dazc


why is it deluded? last year he could have had it in the bag earlier than he did had he stayed calm, but he didnt he lost his head.

last race of the season, the entire commentry was about wether he could stay mature enough to secure the points and win the championship.

the brawns were some of the heaviest cars, and settig the best times,  i wonder if they will go even quicker with less fuel load, or if they have a car that actually works better when slightly heavier?

Its was his 2nd season, he can do mistakes the rest of the early upcomers where doing, and alot of the time he came off the track was when he was chasing down postitions, not because he needed the points but because he wanted more podium finishes, isnt it funny that what the whole FIA are trying to make happin in this season?

Talk abit Kimi taking off (cant remember his name) who was gonna get 3rd and would very unlikly ever get that again for that team, Kimi was a dick and said nothing about it, why doesnt he get the same slagging treatment, Or Massa coming out of the pit lane to shove the Red Bull car off track but then it was the Red Bull tem got penalised for it, why dont poeple bitch bout this so much?

actually i do, there were lots of decisions made last year that were questionable to say the least, where drivers recieved very different treatment.  It was a ploy by bernie and the FIA to get the championship down to the last race.  bernie himself said as much, asked at the end of last season by brundle why it was that it was working out that the championships had come down to the wire in recent series and that some people thought it was a ploy to keep F1 interesting, his reply was 'funny that isnt it' with a smile on his face.
biggest injustice of recent years was schumacher winning a championship by deliberately crashing into people. 

Cant believe when he swung his tire into the rear of Hill, scummy.

Schumacher was ruthless. I was never a fan of him.

is anyone esle going to post some race predictions for tomorrows top 3 or 4 then??

I love what he did for the sport, he was massive in getting it made in America, and getting some of teh new tracks and still does alot for the sport as its ambassador, but he was a stone cold ass on the track lol.

I am a massive Schumacher fan, his do or die attitude is something i can appreciate. He did what ever was needed to win the race or win the championship. People hate that and call him a bad sportsman etc.... Call it what you want, if i was in the same position id race the exact same way.
Hamilton has a similar mindset when he gets put to the back of the grid and i have to admire him for it, regardless of whether i like him or not. Its no better to finish 9th over last and he takes gambles because of it. I wouldnt neccesarily say he cant handle the pressure, he just takes too many risks. Im with Daz, Hamilton will not finish the race. Infact i wouldnt be surprised if he didnt make it out of the first corner...

Dazc id love to make a prediction but im finding it very hard.

1.Kimi
2.Rosberg
3.Barrichello
4.Button

Prob way off tho

dazc

last race of the season, the entire commentry was about wether he could stay mature enough to secure the points and win the championship.

What and he didn't?

I like the fact that we can't make predictions with much confidence - it had better make things more exciting! I tink I will actually watch the race live, and sod the lost hour.

What about when hamilton crashed into cars at pit lane exit last year, what did he say, it's not my fault like a kid. Hamilton wont have the mettle to compete this year with a slower car.