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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
11 November 2003 03:21
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I disagree Sly mate. If you do that then you will be training to failure regular. This will be a recipe for injury with the heavy weights used with 5x5.
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
17 November 2003 18:29
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frankie and everyone else who knows something about it, what do u think of weighted push ups,with elevation pads to give the fullest ROM and with weight ? i ask this because i BB at home and for the time being,i lack dumbbells , for push day! thks in advance.
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
17 November 2003 21:32
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2nd week in, I've noticed using this routine my form has improved, I think that's because there's less reps. Strength is definitely up and my chest is looking more muscular already! My back routine is amazing now, I used to almost faint every time I worked out and a couple of times I've actually been sick and fell flat out, I'm probably going to raise the weights and go through the same thing again because I'm crazy like that, but the new routine with my back routine makes me feel like I could do it twice over. Obviously I'll do it gradually so I don't burn me out. Thanks for this Frankie, I know it's not your discovery and you can't claim the routine as your own but it definitely proves something from the past isn't useless. Respect.
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
19 November 2003 12:19
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Frankie, in another thread you wrote : quote: If you plateau on one or two exercises during a 12 week cycle, that's normal. If you plateau on more than a couple of your exercises, that's a true plateau.
My question is : what should be done if a single exercise plateaus for say 3 weeks, yet the others continue to increase? e.g. My bench has plateaued but my dumbell bench and military are still increasing steadily. Thanks
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
19 November 2003 18:01
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quote: Originally posted by Vetzak My question is : what should be done if a single exercise plateaus for say 3 weeks, yet the others continue to increase? e.g. My bench has plateaued but my dumbell bench and military are still increasing steadily.
Are you doing both dumbbell FLAT bench and barbell FLAT bench? Or is one of them incline?
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
19 November 2003 19:43
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I am doing flat barbell bench then incline dumbells.
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
19 November 2003 21:20
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Vetzak: One last question - do you always have a spotter or bench in a power rack?
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
19 November 2003 22:04
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Frankie, Am currently following your regime and it really is an eye opener. Enjoying it [if that's the right thing to say!] and Know I will make some great gains on this. I have one question....I do flat and incline bench using dumbells for both. Is this ok? The reason is because my gym only has a Smiths press barbell incline and I don't like using these as they seem to restrict your natural movement. And because I go to the gym on my own [no spotter], I tend not to do barbell flat bench. Thanks in advance.
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
19 November 2003 22:48
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Frankie. I am in the same situation as Vetzak,I don't have a spotter and I don't use a powerack. I think it maybe a confidence thing, don't want to get trapped under the bar.
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
19 November 2003 23:01
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quote: Originally posted by Frankie NY Vetzak: One last question - do you always have a spotter or bench in a power rack?
I bench in a power rack so I have no fear about missing a rep. I also feel that bench press is my favourite exercise and I try my hardest on it, but for the past 3 weeks it has become stuck. Thanks
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
19 November 2003 23:12
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Vetzak: The best thing you can do to break through a plateau in the bench press is to switch to bottom position flat bench presses for a while. Position the power rack pins so that the bar just barely touches your chest (or as close as possible). Push from the bottom, lock out, and lower the weight back down the pins. Set the bar down completely, but don't let go of the bar. Repeat. Do 5x5, and then move on to inclines and military presses. Stay with the bottom position benches for 3 weeks and then switch back to regular benches to see where you are.
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
20 November 2003 11:29
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quote: Originally posted by rsharper Frankie. I am in the same situation as Vetzak,I don't have a spotter and I don't use a powerack. I think it maybe a confidence thing, don't want to get trapped under the bar.
Do flat dumbbell or weighted dips instead?
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
20 November 2003 23:23
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Thanks Frankie. I am already familiar with bottom position benching so I'll give it a go for 3 weeks and see how I get on, cheers.
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
22 November 2003 13:49
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Hey Frankie, how would you split this routine for two workouts performed on saturday and sunday? Because I don't have enough time to train on week days. Maybe a split like PUSH-PULL or UPPERBODY-LOWERBODY?
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
22 November 2003 14:53
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S1MON: If you can only workout on weekends, then you need to space the workouts as far apart as possible. If you can, workout Friday night and Sunday night. You could try: WORKOUT ONE: Bench Press, Military Press, Dips, Abs WORKOUT TWO: Deadlift, Squats, Barbell Rows or Chins, Grip Work
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
23 November 2003 20:19
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Hi Frankie Been doing your routine for a few months now and have put on 3kg of weight in that time which im very pleased with :) I have ran into a problem though, i can no longer safely lift the barbell from the floor to over my head and on to the back of my traps to perform squats. I workout at home on my own but have no squat/power rack and no spotter to assist. How detrimental to my gains would it be not to do squats? or what could i do instead? My current routine is Pull deadlift underhand chins bent over row Push Weighted Pushups Milatary Press Legs/abs Squats SLDL weighted crunches all mainly 4x6
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
23 November 2003 21:22
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I built my own squat rack with wood and nails. It is really solid and easy to do. Otherwise, you can build a squat rack, it is very cheap. Squat are a essential exercise and it cannot be replaced by anything else.
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
24 November 2003 19:09
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hmmm, maybe are get my hammer out then :D
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
24 November 2003 19:35
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quote: Originally posted by BYF1 I workout at home on my own but have no squat/power rack and no spotter to assist. How detrimental to my gains would it be not to do squats? or what could i do instead?
Squats are the most important exercise one can do. Not doing them will hold back your deadlift, overall body growth, etc. Buy a used power rack for cheap if you can. If not, your next best option is to buy a trap bar and do trap bar deadlifts. This type of deadlift relies much more on the legs but still works the back.
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RE: Frankie NY's Mass Building Program
25 November 2003 01:13
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thanks frankie!
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