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 Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney'


Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney'

Froch on Points
  8% (1)
Froch inside the distance (all methods)
  75% (9)
Draw
  0% (0)
Dirrell on Points
  16% (2)
Dirrell inside the distance (all methods)
  0% (0)

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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 18 October 2009 12:10
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http://www.sportinglife.com/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=boxing/09/10/17/BOXING_Froch_Nottingham.html

Froch must have been in a different fight from the one everyone else and the judges watched.. and scored.
 
Makes himself look stupid IMO


LOL....he lost that fight badly. Had Taylor's corner played it smarter in the 12th, Froch would have been soundly beaten on points.
 
I just don't rate Froch at all and last night nails it for me
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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 18 October 2009 12:31
TBH mate Ive lost interest in boxing bets full stop now.

After the Paulie M robbery the other month its clear that its just a bent sport. Never bet last night because of that fight and Im please now!lol

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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 18 October 2009 21:26
 Even as a Froch fan I thought Dirrell did enough to nick the decision on the strength of rounds 9/10/11 where he was too fast for Froch. How about the Taylor/Abraham fight? They showed it on the big screen before the Froch fight, what a cracking punch!

 On a side note I was pretty disgusted with some of the so called boxing "fans" shouting abuse at Dirrell, makes you proud to be British doesnt it?

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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 00:28
at least froch fought with some balls, which is a hell of a lot more than you can say for the yank.

How you can call yourself a "fighter" then run away from a fight is a bloody mystery to me.

Dirrell fought scared, not just a case of wanting to stay on the outside and box, more a case of "I don;t want to get hurt"

Admittedly, Dirrel outboxed Froch, but scoring for cowardess isn't going to happen by a uk boxing judge.  Dirrel never had him hurt or in any trouble, his best punch was a straight left which Froch ate.


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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 00:34
With the point deduction I had even. Dirrell was a bit too quick to 'slip and fall', and generally hide in the earlier rounds.
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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 06:42
Robbery? Some people are just retarded. A close fight, could have gone either way. But a robbery? LOL!

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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 07:04
Not an entertaining fight. Dirrel never done enough to take the title IMO.
I give Dirrel some credit for his boxing abilities and he caught Froch with a few good shots.
I don't think the fight got started until round 9.

If it was not for the early fight and lovely punch buy Abraham I would of wasted my money.

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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 08:02
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Robbery? Some people are just retarded. A close fight, could have gone either way. But a robbery? LOL!


Now now, no need to be bitter.. LMAO!
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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 08:34
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Robbery? Some people are just retarded. A close fight, could have gone either way. But a robbery? LOL!


Now now, no need to be bitter.. LMAO!


Yep. exactly what I was saying. No need to be bitter Trident, its nobodies fault other than Dirrells that he lost.
 
Robbery indeed, lol! Of course you didnt bet, the benefit of hindsight is such a fantastic thing.....pmsl

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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 10:31
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Robbery? Some people are just retarded. A close fight, could have gone either way. But a robbery? LOL!


Now now, no need to be bitter.. LMAO!


Yep. exactly what I was saying. No need to be bitter Trident, its nobodies fault other than Dirrells that he lost.
 
Robbery indeed, lol! Of course you didnt bet, the benefit of hindsight is such a fantastic thing.....pmsl


Mid rounds indeed....
 
'Retarded' LMAO... I shall enjoy your wit untill you get yourself banned again, which will happen.
 
  
 
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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 11:23
anyone got any links to the fight i was working when it wa son and it doesnt seem to be coming up on boxing-core at the mo!!

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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 12:14
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anyone got any links to the fight i was working when it wa son and it doesnt seem to be coming up on boxing-core at the mo!!


You don't want to see it! Trust me!

It didn't start to near 3am, I stayed in to watch in and it is one of the most regrettable things i've done in the whole of 2009.



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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 12:16
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LOL....he lost that fight badly.


He didnt lose it badly. He was behind on two scorecards but wore him down and KOd him. Just like Chavez Jnr did to Meldrick Taylor but nobody goes on about Chavez losing that badly.
 
Title fights are over 12 rounds not 11 and four fifths.
 

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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 12:19
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Robbery? Some people are just retarded. A close fight, could have gone either way. But a robbery? LOL!


Now now, no need to be bitter.. LMAO!


Yep. exactly what I was saying. No need to be bitter Trident, its nobodies fault other than Dirrells that he lost.
 
Robbery indeed, lol! Of course you didnt bet, the benefit of hindsight is such a fantastic thing.....pmsl


Mid rounds indeed....
 
'Retarded' LMAO... I shall enjoy your wit untill you get yourself banned again, which will happen.  
   

No wit. You picked the wrong guy, and your other 'value bets' didnt quite come off buddy. No shame in that. might aswell keep trying and trying until the outsider eventually comes up trumps.
 
The only robbery here was the bookies pocketing your 'value' bets. To suggest Dirrell did enough in that fight to claim a robbery is not quite retarded but definitely borderline.

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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 13:20
The concensus in repsect to the JCChavez  v Meldrick Taylor fight is that JCC was a very fortunate man indeed.

I think Froch has also been riding his luck a little too much.

For what its worth i agree with Steeles stoppage of the JCC Taylor fight. If you cant defend yourself then the ref should step in, regardless of how long is left.

I also hate this aggression scoring. Did Dirrell land more of the knuckle part of the glove on the target area than Froch? If the answer is yes then he gets the round surely?






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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 13:26
Chavez may have been fortunate but the scenario is the same - he didnt lose. Nor did Froch. A KO is a KO be it in the first second or the last.

Re aggression, neither were very accurate or clean with their work but Froch was the one coming forward so would edge any close round as 'the aggressor'.

A close fight which could have gone either way - all 3 judges agreed on just 4 of the rounds? - but in no way whatsoever was this a robbery.

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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 13:40
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The concensus in repsect to the JCChavez  v Meldrick Taylor fight is that JCC was a very fortunate man indeed.

For what its worth i agree with Steeles stoppage of the JCC Taylor fight. If you cant defend yourself then the ref should step in, regardless of how long is left.



Steeles was taking back handers from don king the ****. He should never have stopped that chavez fight, taylor took hard punches for every round of that fight. With only a few seconds left, steeles knew this was his last chance to steal the fight for don king and he did it. Poor taylor is all i can say, the man can barley talk properly now....



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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 13:44
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Poor taylor is all i can say, the man can barley talk properly now....

Evidence that Steele was correct to stop the fight.

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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 13:50
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speydream
 
Poor taylor is all i can say, the man can barley talk properly now....

Evidence that Steele was correct to stop the fight.


No, thats from years of brawling, not simply because of the chavez fight.

Those last few seconds would not have made a difference and you know it.

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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 14:42
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Integra


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Integra


Robbery? Some people are just retarded. A close fight, could have gone either way. But a robbery? LOL!


Now now, no need to be bitter.. LMAO!


Yep. exactly what I was saying. No need to be bitter Trident, its nobodies fault other than Dirrells that he lost.
 
Robbery indeed, lol! Of course you didnt bet, the benefit of hindsight is such a fantastic thing.....pmsl


Mid rounds indeed....
 
'Retarded' LMAO... I shall enjoy your wit untill you get yourself banned again, which will happen.  
   

No wit. You picked the wrong guy, and your other 'value bets' didnt quite come off buddy. No shame in that. might aswell keep trying and trying until the outsider eventually comes up trumps.
 
The only robbery here was the bookies pocketing your 'value' bets. To suggest Dirrell did enough in that fight to claim a robbery is not quite retarded but definitely borderline.


As I say , It wont be long before your banned again. Why? simply because you cannot stop your mouth running way with yourself from behind your keyboard.
 
What will that make it? 4 bans?
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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 19 October 2009 16:27
5.

There is no evidence of my 'mouth running way with myself' on his thread.

Simple fact is that you incorrectly called the winner, incorrectly called the 'value bets', claimed a 'robbery' - despite it being nothing more than a closely fought SD which happens every weekend - yet can not see the irony in your own remarks in the aftermath. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 20 October 2009 02:24
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5.

There is no evidence of my 'mouth running way with myself' on his thread.

Simple fact is that you incorrectly called the winner, incorrectly called the 'value bets', claimed a 'robbery' - despite it being nothing more than a closely fought SD which happens every weekend - yet can not see the irony in your own remarks in the aftermath. Nothing more, nothing less.


The man has a point


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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 20 October 2009 15:44
 
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5.
 
Speaks volumes realy.

There is no evidence of my 'mouth running way with myself' on his thread.
 
"Some people are just retarded".... Typical comments to cause unrest in a thread. Even after 4 bans for similar stuff you dont seem to change.

Simple fact is that you incorrectly called the winner, incorrectly called the 'value bets', claimed a 'robbery' - despite it being nothing more than a closely fought SD which happens every weekend - yet can not see the irony in your own remarks in the aftermath. Nothing more, nothing less.

 
Your right. What you did do was manage to predict the 1/3 odds on Fav to win, which he did, but only just.
 
I did indeed name 'value bets' which as you should know are bets which are priced higher than they should be and offer value. Your prediction of a Froch stoppage was actually what those bets were!
 
TBH  virtualy every prediction you make on here is simply that the favourite will win the fight. Its that simple. The method you pick is mostly the one thats the most probable and that the majority agree on in internet land. Should they lose then its one of those things, but should they win, which odds on Favs mostly do! then this thread gives a classis example of your cockyness and attitude, IE the 'Retarded' comments.
 
As for mocking myself for actually picking fighters who are not favourites and mocking my lack of success, well all I can say is that ive probably started 15 to 20 threads on here over the last 7 to 8 years (mostly in general) stateing I think a strong outsider or even extreme outsider will win a fight. I would say that probably 10 of those threads have been correctly predicted. I will do a search but fear some will have been lost in forum cleanups.The long standing members here will remember them Im sure. Tim Bradley at 6/1, Sexton 7/2. Stateing that Prescot was being tipped in the betting circles for a 10/1 win only hours before the fight. Tipping Harrison to get beat by Williams at 10/1.
 
Im happy to stick my neck out on the tough to calls ones such as Witter v Alexander, which you sat on the fence for. Even money fight when I called It correctly.
 
 
 
 
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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 20 October 2009 17:41
Here we go again clutching at straws with hastily edited words to paper over the cracks.



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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 20 October 2009 20:27
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Integra


5.
 
Speaks volumes realy.

There is no evidence of my 'mouth running way with myself' on his thread.
 
"Some people are just retarded".... Typical comments to cause unrest in a thread. Even after 4 bans for similar stuff you dont seem to change.

Simple fact is that you incorrectly called the winner, incorrectly called the 'value bets', claimed a 'robbery' - despite it being nothing more than a closely fought SD which happens every weekend - yet can not see the irony in your own remarks in the aftermath. Nothing more, nothing less.

 
Your right. What you did do was manage to predict the 1/3 odds on Fav to win, which he did, but only just.
 
I did indeed name 'value bets' which as you should know are bets which are priced higher than they should be and offer value. Your prediction of a Froch stoppage was actually what those bets were!
 
TBH  virtualy every prediction you make on here is simply that the favourite will win the fight. Its that simple. The method you pick is mostly the one thats the most probable and that the majority agree on in internet land. Should they lose then its one of those things, but should they win, which odds on Favs mostly do! then this thread gives a classis example of your cockyness and attitude, IE the 'Retarded' comments.
 
As for mocking myself for actually picking fighters who are not favourites and mocking my lack of success, well all I can say is that ive probably started 15 to 20 threads on here over the last 7 to 8 years (mostly in general) stateing I think a strong outsider or even extreme outsider will win a fight. I would say that probably 10 of those threads have been correctly predicted. I will do a search but fear some will have been lost in forum cleanups.The long standing members here will remember them Im sure. Tim Bradley at 6/1, Sexton 7/2. Stateing that Prescot was being tipped in the betting circles for a 10/1 win only hours before the fight. Tipping Harrison to get beat by Williams at 10/1.
 
Im happy to stick my neck out on the tough to calls ones such as Witter v Alexander, which you sat on the fence for. Even money fight when I called It correctly.
 
 
 
 


I'm manager of a Ladbrokes and I'll say that approximetly half of odds on favourites lose in racing and about a third in football.

He did pick the odds on favourite, saying it was a likely thing to happen- and he was right.  Who cares what the betting market says- it's made up from what experts think and the money on the different outcomes.

He wasn't saying "I've got a tip for you" he was saying "I think x will happen" which it did.

As for value bets, it's pointless saying 7/1 for conduit is good value when you yourself believe that sea the stars is going to win.

Don't get me wrong you have made several correct predictions despite the betting market being against you, and it's quite impressive when you take into account long odds on a two horse race.


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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 20 October 2009 20:59
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5.

Speaks volumes realy.

There is no evidence of my 'mouth running way with myself' on his thread.

"Some people are just retarded".... Typical comments to cause unrest in a thread. Even after 4 bans for similar stuff you dont seem to change.

Simple fact is that you incorrectly called the winner, incorrectly called the 'value bets', claimed a 'robbery' - despite it being nothing more than a closely fought SD which happens every weekend - yet can not see the irony in your own remarks in the aftermath. Nothing more, nothing less.


Your right. What you did do was manage to predict the 1/3 odds on Fav to win, which he did, but only just.
 
I did indeed name 'value bets' which as you should know are bets which are priced higher than they should be and offer value. Your prediction of a Froch stoppage was actually what those bets were!
 
TBH  virtualy every prediction you make on here is simply that the favourite will win the fight. Its that simple. The method you pick is mostly the one thats the most probable and that the majority agree on in internet land. Should they lose then its one of those things, but should they win, which odds on Favs mostly do! then this thread gives a classis example of your cockyness and attitude, IE the 'Retarded' comments.
 
As for mocking myself for actually picking fighters who are not favourites and mocking my lack of success, well all I can say is that ive probably started 15 to 20 threads on here over the last 7 to 8 years (mostly in general) stateing I think a strong outsider or even extreme outsider will win a fight. I would say that probably 10 of those threads have been correctly predicted. I will do a search but fear some will have been lost in forum cleanups.The long standing members here will remember them Im sure. Tim Bradley at 6/1, Sexton 7/2. Stateing that Prescot was being tipped in the betting circles for a 10/1 win only hours before the fight. Tipping Harrison to get beat by Williams at 10/1.
 
Im happy to stick my neck out on the tough to calls ones such as Witter v Alexander, which you sat on the fence for. Even money fight when I called It correctly.
 
 

 


I'm manager of a Ladbrokes and I'll say that approximetly half of odds on favourites lose in racing and about a third in football.

He did pick the odds on favourite, saying it was a likely thing to happen- and he was right.  Who cares what the betting market says- it's made up from what experts think and the money on the different outcomes.

He wasn't saying "I've got a tip for you" he was saying "I think x will happen" which it did.

As for value bets, it's pointless saying 7/1 for conduit is good value when you yourself believe that sea the stars is going to win.

Don't get me wrong you have made several correct predictions despite the betting market being against you, and it's quite impressive when you take into account long odds on a two horse race.

 
In boxing i would say 7/10 odds on Favs win. Short odds on favs which Integra often picks win in probably 8/10 cases. I would be amazed if he could name an outsider who hes picked thats been over 6/4, let alone 6/1.
 
My point being that constant fav backing in boxing is a very easy thing to do and requires no skill what so ever, your simply just running with the odds and what the majority say. A 1/3 win on an SD is a skin of the teeth thing.
 
Junior witter was an 1/8 Fav when when I started a thread saying he would get beat by the 6/1 bradley. When he lost there was no sign of me taking the pis* out of Integra nor anyone else who disagreed with me on any matter.
 
Thats realy the crux of this thread now. Its not realy about who picks which fighter or who wins but more about respecting other peoples views. Integra lacks this quaility and thus has been banned 4 times from the forum, which does speak volumes.
 
Dirrell winning on points was a very near miss with the SD. Yes Froch won in a close fight, but the mid round stoppage was indeed way off the mark, thus the a limp home 1/3 is hardly the grounds to start calling people retards.
 
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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 21 October 2009 10:20
Integra


Here we go again clutching at straws with hastily edited words to paper over the cracks.


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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 25 October 2009 09:11
I watched this fight last night from the 7th onwards thought froch was lucky tbh but would be intrested to see the whole fight. Frochs hands were soo low towards the end of the fight are they normally like this because it wont be long before he gets ktfo !!
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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 25 October 2009 09:23

are they normally like this

 
Yes....tbf, he can take a punch, he has also been put on his arse but I really can't see him holding onto that belt for much longer
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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 25 October 2009 10:08
Fair enough i was thinking if that dirrell bloke had properly connected with a big one could have gone down. 
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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 22 December 2009 21:59
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Integra


Trident


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Robbery? Some people are just retarded. A close fight, could have gone either way. But a robbery? LOL!


Now now, no need to be bitter.. LMAO!


Yep. exactly what I was saying. No need to be bitter Trident, its nobodies fault other than Dirrells that he lost.
 
Robbery indeed, lol! Of course you didnt bet, the benefit of hindsight is such a fantastic thing.....pmsl


Mid rounds indeed....
 
'Retarded' LMAO... I shall enjoy your wit untill you get yourself banned again, which will happen.
 
  
 

 
I enjoyed your wit.

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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 27 December 2009 18:15
Ah, the bitterness is overwhelming....

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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 27 December 2009 18:42
Hows it going Integra?? LMAO.

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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 27 December 2009 18:44
LOL
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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 27 December 2009 18:44
LOL
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Re:Froch V Dirrell. The start of the 'Super six tourney' - 27 December 2009 18:44
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