Get Diesel: Diesel Test Pro-Cycle test log (sponsored by predator nutrition)

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The reason I asked to test this product is firstly, after running a SD cycle in July I still feel slightly shut down. Initially, after running PCT of Stealth labs Recon and ZMA I felt fine and was planning another longer cycle, however, a few weeks after pct I start feeling tired, sluggish and loss of libido so I’ve put the new cycle on hold until after Xmas. Secondly, I’ve had little joy with natural test boosters (all except ZMA) and lastly, I’m over 40 now and like so many middle age forum members I’d like to find a natural test booster that genuinely works.
It’s important to note that I have no affiliations with predator nutrition.
I’ll post my diet and training later

Bit more info:
 
Age 40
Weight 17st
Height 6'2"
 
Current Training Routine:
SATURDAY
CHEST/ light delts and tri's 
 
INCLINE PRESS    4 X 12 (LSD)                                              
INCLINE FLYES      2 X 12 – 15
FLAT BENCH PRESS   4 X 12 (LSD)                                     
FLAT FLYES  2 X 12 – 15
CABLE CROSSOVERS   2 X 12 – 15 

SIDE LATERAL RAISES  3 X 12 – 15 (LSD)
TRICEP PRESSDOWNS  3 X 12 – 15 (LSD) 
 
 
SUNDAY
BACK/light bi's
WIDE GRIP LATPULLDOWNS   4 X 12 (LSD)                                        
CLOSE GRIP LATPULLDOWNS  2 X 12 – 15
DUMBBELL PULLOVER  2 X 12 – 15
SEATED CABLE ROWS  3 X 12 (LSD)                                
BENT LATERAL / ROWS   2 X 12 – 15 

PREACHER CURLS   3 X 12 – 15 (LSD)
DUMBBELL SHRUGS   3 X 12 – 15 (LSD)
 
 
TUESDAY                                                              
LEGS 
 
LEG EXTENSIONS 4 X 12 (LSD)                                        
SQUATS   3 X 10, 15, 20 (SAME WEIGHT)
LEG PRESS  3 X 10, 15, 20 (SAME WEIGHT)
LEG CURLS   4 X 12 (LSD)                                        
STIFFLEGGED DEADLIFTS  3 X 10 

STANDING CALF RAISES  4 X 15 (LSD)                                        
DONKEY CALF RAISES  2 X MAX 
 
 
THURSDAY 
BI'S/SHOULDER/TRI'S

EZ CURLS 4 X 12 (LSD)                                       
INCLINE CURLS  2 X 12 – 15
BARBELL CONCENTRATION CURLS  2 X 12 – 15 

MILITARY PRESS 4 X 12 (LSD)                                        
SIDE LATERAL RAISES  2 X 12 – 15
MACHINE OVERHEAD PRESS 2 X 12 – 15 

LYING TRICEP EXTENSIONS  4 X 12 (LSD)                                              
DIPS  2 X 12 – 15
OVERHEAD DUMBELL EXTENSIONS  2 X 12 – 15
CABLE KICKBACKS  2 X 12 – 15 

 
*LSD MEANS LAST SET DROP
 
OK, picked up my Diesel Test on Friday
 
Current Diet:
 
Approx 6-7 meals per day. Each meal consists of approx: Pro 30-50g, Carbs 40-70g, Fat 10-30g (no real structure to it at the moment).
 
OK, picked up my Diesel Test on Friday and started it yesterday. It has a strange use protocol which i'll be using to the letter
 
"Consume 6 to 8 tabs daily. Three days on, one day off, two days on, one day off, maximum five days/week. Workout day directions: Consume 2 tabs AM, 3 or 4 tabs 45min to one hour pre-workout, and 1 or 2 tabs post workout. If you workout in the morning, consume 3 or 4 tabs 45min pre-workout, 1 or 2 tabs post workout and 2 tabs 4hours after workout. If you experience a large increase in acne or aggression or if you feel the increase in libido/sex drive is too strong or if you notice a reduction in libido: reduce dosage by one or more tabs/day. PM dosage should be consumed 4-6 hours after mid-day dose, not before bed. If this product starts to lose its "kick" with continued use, take one or more weeks off and continue use. Always take with 8-12oz. liquid 15-20 minutes before or 30 minutes after a meal"
 
So on workout days (sat, sun, tues, thurs) I'll Consume 2 tabs AM, 3 tabs 45min to one hour pre-workout, 2 tabs post workout (4-6hrs after pre-workout tabs). (total 7 tabs)
 
On Wednesday I'll cosume 2 tabs AM, 3 mid-day and 2 in evening (around 6pm)
 
following this dosage it should last 4.5 weeks.
 
Yesterday was my first day of use and to be honest nothing to report. It's only been 1 day but the ad state:
 
"Libido (sex drive) enhancing results as early as three hours after first dose!" Nothing really to report here

"Signs of increased free testosterone levels usually within the first 72 hours of use (which include: increased mental focus, assertiveness, motivation, positive outlook, elevated mood, aggressive workouts and that "Alpha Male" mentality)". Well I've took my morning does and in half an hr will take my pre-workout dose, but nothing to report so far.
 
"Also with DTP you get skin tight nitric oxide pumps and a boost in libido/sex drive that exceeds any product on earth!" Had a decent workout yesterday and I've use NO products in the past with mixed results, but again nothing out of the ordinary to report
 
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<message edited by Kraven on 07 November 2009 11:21>

Good luck with this product mate. Will be following this closely.

Edit; double post

Edit; double post x 2

Ok, second day and good back workout, feel good (could be a placebo effect as i like trying new things) so at least two get ticked
 "increased mental focus, assertiveness, motivation, positive outlook, elevated mood, aggressive workouts and that "Alpha Male" mentality)".

No major increase in libido yet. Day off Diesel Test tomorrow (monday and Friday)

Kraven - I will be interested in following this log. It would be helpful if you could also state poundages on exercises where possible plus take measurements such as waist, legs, and arms.

To everyone - Kraven came off a PH cycle in summer I believe so it will be interesting to see how well he handles the Diesel Test Pro Cycle in light of that. IIRC, he felt recovery was not perfect after prohormones and at the age of 40, I personally think it is a very intelligent move to focus on test boosters over prohormones as they are both safer and, at that age, likely to produce substantial benefits.

Ok, some info on lifts:
(Including bar)
Flat barbell bench press 160k (3.5 plates per side) for 5 reps 
EZ curls 25k a side for 8 reps
Pull-ups 10 slow reps
Seated shrugs 15 reps with 55k
Seated DB press 40k for 10-12 reps 
Skull crushers 25k per side for 12 reps 
Seated leg curls M/C 105 for 8 reps 
(I go easy on leg work and deadlifts these days, going more for form and quality as I've had the odd back and knee problems)

Height: 6’2”
Weight: 17st 
BF%: 20 (done on bodystat)
Chest: 46
Waist: hitting 35.5
R/Bicep: 17.75

Taken diesel test as previously mentioned feel ok, trained early. I don't think the day off diesel done me any favours. Be interesting to see how I feel after 3 consecutive days.

Didn't post yesterday as nothing much to report. However today I've been feeling pretty good, slept well last night and woke-up with morning wood. Starting to notice my body odors becoming more pungent, not surprised as the tablets stink (cross between vinegar and varnish). No strength increase as yet and body comp appears the same. This is day 3 of my first 3 day run, tomorrow no tablets.

It's day 7. didn't train or take Diesel Test yesterday.

took my morning dose today and will take my pre-workout dose in 30mins.

I've read what reviews i can find on Get Diesel: Diesel Test Pro-Cycle and all seem to think week 2 is the sweet week when things start happening. However, I'm concerned about the recommended dosing. I feel with the days off i'm always taking a step back. just when i think things maybe happening I'm back to the beginning.
I don't know if the recommend routine, with it's days off, is purely to make the product last longer? If I took it everyday it would last just over 3 weeks as opposed to 4.5. Some have ran the product at 4 tabs per day for the full 4.5 weeks, I think this is under dosing.

I'll run as recommended for the second week and see how it goes.

Feeling good today, had a good workout. Upped my rep range to 12-15 reps which certainly helped the nitric oxide pumps. Good focus and motivation too, something I’ve been lacking of late. My libido/sex drive seems to be heightened also.
Now tomorrow would be a Diesel day off but I’ve decided to run 6 tabs throughout the day, so that means 6 straight days as opposed to 2 on, 1 off, 3 on. I feel the “off day” is holding my results back.
 

It should be interesting how the week goes. In terms of sex drive what effects would you say you have noticed? Is it comparable to a younger person's? Being on gear?

Interested to know..

Well today is the 5th straight day on Diesel test and I have to say things are improving so I thought I'd have a run down on what the add says this supplement does:
 

Increase Total Testosterone

Increase Libido (sex drive) Sex drive is up, not as high as it was when i was younger (but i was just a walking hard-on back then).

Increase Training Energy Yes

Increase Training Aggression  possibly??

Increase Erection Hardness and Frequency Never really had any problem with erection strength (even when I've had a few jars) but It's noticably strong

Decrease Bad Estrogen

Increased Muscle Hardness possibly?

Decrease Cortisol (stress hormone)

Prevent excessive DHT production

Improved Mood feel ok 

Increase Motivation yes in the gym

Increase Drive yes in the gym

Increase Training Intensity yes

Increase nitric oxide yes but not as much as i'd like

Improved Muscle to Fat Ratio certainly increase thermogenesis

Less Fat in Mid-Section nothing noticeable

Increased Strength/Power maybe slightly

Increased Endurance maybe slightly

Faster Recovery DOM's aren't as bad

Faster Lean Muscle Mass Gains nothing noticable

Increased Mental Clarity in the gym possibly

Reduced Stress In a new job so it maybe helping  
 
 i'll run it tomorrow then go back to the prescribed dosing (which is a day off, 2 days on, a day off). If i feel i'm taking a step back again, I'll just run the rest straight through.

 

PredatorNutrition


It should be interesting how the week goes. In terms of sex drive what effects would you say you have noticed? Is it comparable to a younger person's? Being on gear?

Interested to know..

sex drive is up, not as strong as a young person (or not as strong as when i was young) but certainly noticable.
As for being on the gear I don't experience heightened sex drive with any of the otc steriods/pro-homones or black market orals, Test (any type) on the other hand is a totally different beast. Nothing I've ever taken come close to test for increased sex drive, this included.

I would expect week 2 to be the one where you see more benefit. Of course, it will never compare to test (or dopaminergics) as far as libido goes but I am interested in how it stacks against other test boosters, and especially how you feel coming off given you felt your PCT after the SD cycle left you less than fully recovered.

Well I've ran a number in the blend before;

B-6
Zinc
Selenium
Copper
Maca
Tribulus Testerris
Epimedium (Horny Goat Weed)
Acetyl-L-Carnitine
Di-Indolyl-Methane (DIM)
Arginine HCL
Avena Sativa
Panax Ginseng
Tongkat Ali (Eurycoma Longfolia Jack)
Muira Puama
Guarana
Ginko Biloba
Lecithin
Mucuna Pruriens
Alpha Lipoic Acid
Ginger

Some in proprietary blend, some buying in powder for and mega dosing.
To be honest never thought much of them. About the best I've tried is ZMA.

Took a day off Diesel test yesterday. Been having disturbed sleep and heavy sweating through the night. Good morning wood, sometimes a bit early though, like 4 a.m.
Will run 2 days over weekend and train both days

Still looking promising at this stage mate, am going to try ZMA myself post 1T-Tren thanks to you
 
Morning wood is usually a very good thing, but not at 4am

Ran Diesel both Sat/Sun and workout both days.

Saturdays chest/tri workout was poor. Strength down slightly but endurance done considerably, struggled big time. Normaly rest 60-120secs per set, but half way through it was around 4-5mins. Realy struggled.

Today endurance was the same, struggled. However strength took a big up turn. e.g. I normally latpulldown 84, but today i was back to SD/Tren cycle range of 110 (3 plates up). This continued throughout my back workout. When I hit the bi's though I was struggling so much cardio wise I cut it short.

Libido wise no real change through the day but through the night I wake up early with a boner that won't quit. To early, it's messing with my sleep.

Day off tomorrow. Then I may just run none stop until it's finished. I believe the recommended cycling isn't helping.

Not sure why cycling is recommended but based on the formula I can see why you would keep it.

Lol@the boner situation. Can't you deal with little kraven before you go to bed so he does not wake you up?

PredatorNutrition


Not sure why cycling is recommended but based on the formula I can see why you would keep it.

Lol@the boner situation. Can't you deal with little kraven before you go to bed so he does not wake you up?

LOL. sometimes little kraven is. But the wife isn't too happy with him tapping her on the back at 4 in the morning.
 
Seriously, the night sweats and sleep disturbance is starting to piss me off. It's starting to form a pattern and it's effecting my work.
The effects are minimal through the day (thermogenesis, libido etc). They all seem to manifest through the night.