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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/15 20:55:43 (permalink)
I absolutely HATE people moaning of being ' robbed ' .. don't get me wrong I have  previously felt that I should have been placed higher but I accepted my placing (or lack of) with dignity... otherwise you just look like a total prick!
 
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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/16 09:09:07 (permalink)
^^Wot they said
You have done FRICKIN AWESOME with the progress you've made in your life both mentally & physically, MUCH respect!
I KNOW you will find your path through this and be stronger for it.
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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/18 10:12:35 (permalink)
We all go through negative phases and the good news is they can be lifted. I'm sure Flick won't mind me mentioning she's had more come backs than an automatic boomerang!! I was in a dark place myself after all the last few years and the final kick up the arse with the illness last year. As much as the illness kicked me it also made me realise that if I have the choice then it's up to me to make it work....with an illness you have no choice. So, now I'm not ill, I'm on it!!
 
As for people whinging, it's always going to happen. If I saw the show I will have my own judgement and either totally agree with what they're saying or just know that they are deluded. I'm fortunate that I don't seem to follow anyone like that. Having judged a few shows many comments like that now just go over my head. Someone may look like a winner when they first walk on but once you break down each pose and scrutinize each competitor next to one another then it can be a different story altogether. It's amazing how many people think they should have won because they thought they looked the best back stage but they don't get to compare themselves pose by pose on stage. They also only see themselves from the front and think they look better but when it comes to the rear....they totally lose out.....this happens so many times when I judge!! A typical example was my hubbie in Miami last year, the guy who came second to him threw his trophy backstage. In the rear poses, he had nothing compared to Dave!! His condition was slightly better so his abs were sharper, that was about it!! His FB page was pretty amusing after the show.
 
Anyway, I'm waffling now. IF....you don't feel up to competing next year, then take the pressure off yourself and make that your decision. You've just started a new chapter in your life so focus on that for now. If your heart is really getting back on that stage, and I believe it is then you will one day wake up and be ready to take the next step.
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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/19 13:50:01 (permalink)
Thanks for this.
 
I don't know, there's also the possibility of a new category for me in the untested fed which would have really suited my condition & physique this year. I've also a lot of growth to come from legs and all over since I only just recently started proper BB squatting, and I'm in agony with DOMs at a total load of only 40kgs! Not had quad doms for a long while, and I know BB squats are also an overall mass builder so lots to come.
 
Beginning of this week I was pissed off with a lot of things, one of which was constantly being in pain. I took 2 days off and filled my face with junk. Yes the pains went away, but I was back training Weds-Fri after that pushing and in pain again! I also know despite some people telling me time is running out, it ain't. A second place NABBA Universe competitor is 44, which is 5 and a bit years older than I am so loads of time.
 
I'm going to see where I am at Christmas but I'm making changes now.
 
The changes are I'm removing cardio, it really does nothing for me except eat up my time, energy and contribute to the pain/injuries in my legs. It can just sod right off. I'll be doing 1 martial arts training session each week, plus the odd bike ride or x-trainer hiit session if I can be bothered/feel like it. Meantime getting on top of my binge eating habit is the priority. Without that I can do all the cardio in the world and it won't be effective.
 
I'll then probably try a 26 week diet starting 1st January. I have a residential for a couple of days end of January, and I don't intend stressing myself out trying to take all my own food, so intend to be comfy in the diet by that point so I can get by on the food provided with a couple of protein shakes, handful of nuts for snacks. 
 
Feel a lot better now I've decided this.
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We all go through negative phases and the good news is they can be lifted. I'm sure Flick won't mind me mentioning she's had more come backs than an automatic boomerang!! I was in a dark place myself after all the last few years and the final kick up the arse with the illness last year. As much as the illness kicked me it also made me realise that if I have the choice then it's up to me to make it work....with an illness you have no choice. So, now I'm not ill, I'm on it!!

As for people whinging, it's always going to happen. If I saw the show I will have my own judgement and either totally agree with what they're saying or just know that they are deluded. I'm fortunate that I don't seem to follow anyone like that. Having judged a few shows many comments like that now just go over my head. Someone may look like a winner when they first walk on but once you break down each pose and scrutinize each competitor next to one another then it can be a different story altogether. It's amazing how many people think they should have won because they thought they looked the best back stage but they don't get to compare themselves pose by pose on stage. They also only see themselves from the front and think they look better but when it comes to the rear....they totally lose out.....this happens so many times when I judge!! A typical example was my hubbie in Miami last year, the guy who came second to him threw his trophy backstage. In the rear poses, he had nothing compared to Dave!! His condition was slightly better so his abs were sharper, that was about it!! His FB page was pretty amusing after the show.

Anyway, I'm waffling now. IF....you don't feel up to competing next year, then take the pressure off yourself and make that your decision. You've just started a new chapter in your life so focus on that for now. If your heart is really getting back on that stage, and I believe it is then you will one day wake up and be ready to take the next step.
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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/19 14:13:14 (permalink)
That's better. Sounding much more chilled! x

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/19 14:39:20 (permalink)
Head sounds in a lot better place, so pleased to hear that :)
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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/21 09:39:50 (permalink)
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Head sounds in a lot better place, so pleased to hear that :)

 
Definitely is and I coped with some 'politics' speak yesterday, didn't join in diverted it right off whilst also managing to drop what I thought in.
 
Attended NABBA UK show in Bately, which had Lee Priest as the first guest spot. I'd recommend this show as a way to get a real close view of the best in Britain (it's a smallish, intimate venue) however for some reason this year the bouncers who looked like venue staff decided not to let any food in apart from that for competitors.
 
I had a carefully prepared 6 pack bag, friend had his own food too (trying to avoid the staple fast food which seems to be served at venues), got to the head of the queue to get in (30 minutes) to be told I couldn't take it in. Denis had to take our stuff back to the car, whilst I waiting inside. I had been hungry and due a meal but was waiting til we got sat down in seats. Had a minor strop then we sourced some protein bars from trade stands, and a couple of bottles of water from the bar. Later on they did start serving hot food but by that time we were into the show. Oh and it was chilled drinks only at the bar.
 
I fancy doing the UK show but was blown away by the standard of the winner Linda Cassidy looked amazing and she could well be unbeatable at the Brits. She looks like Sarah Hallett who it turns out has had a hand in her preperation, but better. Linda has fabulous structure, and Kelly Freeman just couldn't touch her (sorry Kelly) so was second for her again. With the figure I presented earlier this year I think once again I'd have been 4th. I've so much work to do and this has reinforced my decision to cut cardio and forget my weight.
 
I also spent the day in a lot of pain, sitting down for extended periods sets something off in my glutes and hams which travels down my leg. DOMS from Thursday are subsiding now and was happy to feel something in my hams from the isolation session I did on they Saturday.
 
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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/22 18:02:45 (permalink)
Trained H&Gs today, no cardio and very happy about that. I am even going to let myself have some soup and salad at uni this week. Means I don't have to carry a flippin box with me to class, it is off season after all.
 
Weights not going up with H&Gs wondering is it because I have hammered them constantly for almost 2 years, or do I need to change approach, or should I just be happy that I'm learning to squat on quad day and gaining from that. Dunno but I know quads are coming on now in leaps and bounds. Don't want to end up out of kilter, might try some heavy stuff on hams next week, less reps for a while.

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/22 18:24:53 (permalink)
I can vouch that a totally new approach can make things happen

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/23 16:52:04 (permalink)
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We all go through negative phases and the good news is they can be lifted. I'm sure Flick won't mind me mentioning she's had more come backs than an automatic boomerang!!

 
I think I'm a bit different. I do appear negative to others, but I never feel it in myself, I just know if enough people say it to me, they must be right!
I never want to 'never compete again', but I've never felt fufilled after a season (except this year funnily enough!) I take time out of competing to spend time with my family, which I think is why my competing is so on/off. I like it that way. I'm also quite lucky in that I don't get too upset with how I look off-season either, I wear it quite well
Wasn't aware how it maybe came across though?
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On a different note, I witnessed some NABBA whining on FB. Give me strength!
That said, I wonder how I'd feel if I didn't agree with a decision (generally all of mine have been pretty fair IMO).
 
Don't think "Will I/won't I compete? Just go with your feelings until the time comes you'd have to start dieting and see how you really feel then, you can't forecast that now, that much I do know 
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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/24 10:54:35 (permalink)
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We all go through negative phases and the good news is they can be lifted. I'm sure Flick won't mind me mentioning she's had more come backs than an automatic boomerang!!


I think I'm a bit different. I do appear negative to others, but I never feel it in myself, I just know if enough people say it to me, they must be right!
I never want to 'never compete again', but I've never felt fufilled after a season (except this year funnily enough!) I take time out of competing to spend time with my family, which I think is why my competing is so on/off. I like it that way. I'm also quite lucky in that I don't get too upset with how I look off-season either, I wear it quite well
Wasn't aware how it maybe came across though?
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On a different note, I witnessed some NABBA whining on FB. Give me strength!
That said, I wonder how I'd feel if I didn't agree with a decision (generally all of mine have been pretty fair IMO).

Don't think "Will I/won't I compete? Just go with your feelings until the time comes you'd have to start dieting and see how you really feel then, you can't forecast that now, that much I do know 

I think this is what some people mean by me looking 'gaunt' they mean I look better to them off season, however I intend competing again and if they think I look ill or whatever then they need to not be around me, and words are going to be had.
 
They also aren't friend, friends, more work friends who think they mean well.
 
There is supposedly a new class coming into the fed I already compete with, one my figure this year would have fitted into very well. I don't however think I can get into that condition again in the time I have as well as put on enough muscle to be competitive in BNBF Physique, so I now have a conundrum, do I stay consistent to the fed I'm with and show and try and compete early risking muscle loss and a long season or do I hang fire, focus on the BNBF qualifiers then do a series of shows in the autumn which would include the original fed. I see people doing show after show and it's strange me not doing this however I've a feeling some of the best physiques have been from those who sit back, bide their time, only do a few shows and allow themselves to recover. I know many improved from show to show but I've also seen some end up struggling with condition. I also know I am permanently cold when within shooting distance of stage weight, and I don't think that's a good sign.
 
Going to be hard but I think giving myself a few extra weeks could make a difference. I'll still need to start dieting around Christmas time this time I'm going to have almost 2 stone to lose which is scary but if there's new muscle growing it could be a could thing. I am struggling with my martial arts at the moment because of the weight so will be glad in that respect when I get down a bit, but it's also nice to be warm too.

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/25 08:47:37 (permalink)
I think you should hae a crack at BNBF. I know Kitty will tell her fave story that the year she won she was one of the smallest in her class. I did not so bad this year, and I'm small in size for a Physique girl. You bring condition and that's important. It's not everything but it's important.
 
Can you not do NABBA in the autumn as you said, like the NABBA Novice at the end of the season?
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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/25 20:51:59 (permalink)
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I think you should hae a crack at BNBF. I know Kitty will tell her fave story that the year she won she was one of the smallest in her class. I did not so bad this year, and I'm small in size for a Physique girl. You bring condition and that's important. It's not everything but it's important.

Can you not do NABBA in the autumn as you said, like the NABBA Novice at the end of the season?

Except I'm well off condition now, and I'm heading towards a point where I won't be able to diet it off in 6 months (I've gained fat on the SUC not lost)- we are talking around 20lbs over where I started out dieting from last year. I have around 2 to 2 1/2 stone to lose to get back to the same unless I've gained stupid amounts of muscle and I wouldn't think I've gained more than a 2-3 lbs in muscle since I went off season in June. It'll be a long prep whatever I do.
 
NABBA novice as far as I'm aware requires an invite (they give them out at I think area shows, Brits, NABBA UK shows) from what I see it's for lower placed but promising looking new competitors.  
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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/25 21:29:25 (permalink)
What's the new class?

You certainly don't need to be the biggest to win physique, Flick is right. There's been a lack of conditioning in the physique class for a few years with the odd exception. I knew that was the only thing going to get me through so worked my socks off to get that right. You've got a great shape and a good level of muscle now. You know you will need to be a little tighter than your previous showings but with the extra time you've had to gain more muscle you should reach that easy enough.

If you're feeling the way you are now regarding your conditioning and have decided you want to compete next year then perhaps do what I've done and start now! My diet is enough to fill me, cardio infrequent enough to put up with and length of time long enough not to stress diet and 2 high carb days a week (one mid week one at weekend) are enough to keep me happy with a little extra helping of something.

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/26 12:26:24 (permalink)
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What's the new class?

You certainly don't need to be the biggest to win physique, Flick is right. There's been a lack of conditioning in the physique class for a few years with the odd exception. I knew that was the only thing going to get me through so worked my socks off to get that right. You've got a great shape and a good level of muscle now. You know you will need to be a little tighter than your previous showings but with the extra time you've had to gain more muscle you should reach that easy enough.

If you're feeling the way you are now regarding your conditioning and have decided you want to compete next year then perhaps do what I've done and start now! My diet is enough to fill me, cardio infrequent enough to put up with and length of time long enough not to stress diet and 2 high carb days a week (one mid week one at weekend) are enough to keep me happy with a little extra helping of something.

 
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I know my body will go right down although I did work really, really hard this year - I truly felt like death the week before and there were so many times even 2 months out when I wondered how I was going to walk the 3/4 of a mile home from the gym. My diet was also pared right down 2 months out, foods I hear others eating up until the last few weeks went right out so it doesn't land right in my lap but I can do it.
 
I also have a residential weekend end of January, I need to be concentrating on the content of that weekend, not on worrying about sorting diet out it'll be a weekend where bodybuilding takes a back seat so need a bit of leeway  - making an early start makes sense. 
 
The new class isn't definite so would be wrong to pin hopes on that and I find I work best just getting on the right for me path and keeping on with that.

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/26 21:47:10 (permalink)
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...I also spent the day in a lot of pain, sitting down for extended periods sets something off in my glutes and hams which travels down my leg...

 
Hi GN,

Hope you don't mind me butting in but maybe get it checked out with a doc or physio? Could be something to do with your sciatic nerve.  I didn't get it checked out properly straight away and now I'm not allowed to do any training, I'm in physio once a week and can't even get out and about at weekends or do stuff with my kids.  I'm also Ben & Jerry's number one customer 

Worth checking just in case  
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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/27 18:08:09 (permalink)
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...I also spent the day in a lot of pain, sitting down for extended periods sets something off in my glutes and hams which travels down my leg...


Hi GN,

Hope you don't mind me butting in but maybe get it checked out with a doc or physio? Could be something to do with your sciatic nerve.  I didn't get it checked out properly straight away and now I'm not allowed to do any training, I'm in physio once a week and can't even get out and about at weekends or do stuff with my kids.  I'm also Ben & Jerry's number one customer 

Worth checking just in case  

 
Thanks for the concern, I've spent the last 5 years sorting out my lower limb issues. Been through physio, sports therapy and done a lot of biomechanics work. Also had Rik Partridge give me some stuff to do which is helping with my right leg so I've sort of got in mostly in hand. Most successful was the biomechanics stuff and they deal with stuff like how the nerves work/body interacts. My brother has sciatica/slipped disc and my issue is nothing like his (and much improved compared to at it's worst a few years ago).
 
So I've now made contact with a coach who is hopefully going to be prepping me from now up until my BNBF debut next summer. We have a date in mind and will be meeting up next weekend. His feeling is that my form probably needs checking, tweaking so we can get these stubborn bodyparts growing. Just noticed today in the gym that my technique on lying kickbacks has gone quite wrong - my arms are finishing up not far off the floor when they should be parallel with sides. Tris aren't particularly lagging and it's only one exercise but time to go back down the weights rack and get it right! Squats also coming on, the pain in ITB is still there but it's no worse and I can train and I'm up to 45kg for 10 reps. Hardly much really but it's working my quads and glutes so I don't care, it's got to be doing something.  60kg for 10 by Christmas would be very nice and I think an achievable goal. 

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/28 15:11:53 (permalink)
Yippeee.....so from an unsure whether to compete, to now prepping for BNBF debut. Love it  I'm sure you can manage 60kg too. I have every confidence in you.

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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/28 20:27:08 (permalink)
And the location is somewhere I quite like, where it feels 'right' to compete, a place I'm reasonably familiar with. NABBA is also in the plan.
  
Excited.
 
Trained H&Gs today despite still a bit sore after last leg workout.
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Yippeee.....so from an unsure whether to compete, to now prepping for BNBF debut. Love it  I'm sure you can manage 60kg too. I have every confidence in you.


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Re:Gingernut's journey to NABBA Northwest 2012 2013/10/29 14:48:04 (permalink)
Oooh exciting! Have you a qualifier in mind? I think I'll only be watching Southerns and Centrals next year tbh.
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