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2013/11/25 19:13:08 (permalink)

Greg Kovacs Dead

Just seen on Facebook that Greg Kovacs died at 44 from heart failure.
 
http://www.rxmuscle.com/a...cs-dies-at-age-44.html
 
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    Stocky_Mike
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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/25 21:37:17 (permalink)
    True genetic freak.
    Offseason weight apparently 420lbs. Incredible.
    Rip

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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/25 21:50:39 (permalink)
    RIP.
     
    Such a young age
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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/25 22:20:19 (permalink)
    watched the first half of the 2nd video on that page - that's some lat spread he had going on


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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/25 22:57:42 (permalink)
    Wonder if the palumboism was a sign of the inevitable!
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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/25 23:40:03 (permalink)
    Can't say I'm shocked.   I think he was a shining example of steroid abuse gone wrong.
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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/26 01:12:30 (permalink)
    Never nice to see anyone die so RIP but he pushed the boundaries and paid the price.
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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/26 07:26:25 (permalink)
    RIP, never a nice thing to hear

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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/26 08:29:49 (permalink)
    I remember years ago when I used to post on an American BB forum and Greg used to get slated for his decline in physique. I always found it sad that he went downhill in terms of his look and that he continued to carry on.
     
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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/26 09:36:21 (permalink)
    RIP - huge man

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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/26 09:57:27 (permalink)
    Great post on MD.com in the wake of Greg Kovacs death yesterday.This is a reality check that anyone who competes,particularly the youngsters in their early 20's abusing,I say abusing-not using-steroids chasing the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow should listen to.For the few who reach the pot,its not like climbing Everest-there is no breathtaking reward,view,or feeling of accomplishment,only perhaps an empty feeling of self sacrifice.Actually bodybuilding is in fact a microcosm of the world at large-bigger,more,quicker...is the problem,not the solution you seek.
     
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    I can always tell who has kids and who doesnt have kids when I see people post that its ok to die at 44 if you lived a great life. Trust me with this....34 is right around the corner, 38 comes right after that and youll be 44 and thinking "wow im already 44, that went by quick"......You do not want to be dying of heart failure in your early 40's with a beautiful wife near your hospital bed and three little children asking "Daddy when are you coming home"?...(and your not)....and they have nobody as a father thru their formulative years because you were so self absorbed as a bodybuilder you didnt think of the future gameplan of health.

    See people will argue against this till they are blue in the face because you cannot inject 3cc's tommorow if there is potential you could die down the road. So how do they deal with it? They use the "well it happened to that guy because of this....and it wont happen to me" ... I post on a pretty hardcore board and there is quite a few people with kidney failure and heart attacks (kidney failure at 29 and heart attacks at 37....things like that).....just look at this last couple years off the top of my head... Brad Hillenbaugh (kidney failure), Nasser, Kovacs, Duvall, Daniele Seccarecci, Art Atwood, Mattarrazzo (heart), Luke wood....its getting ridiculous. I remember in the early 90's when GH was insanely expensive and everyone was saying Strydom was using 6ius a day...and people were out of their minds thinking that was such a large dose. Nowadays? Thats a middleweight at a county show's dose. Back in the 90's... 1000mg of test was considered a pretty hefty dose. Thats a starter cycle for alot of these guys who want it so bad nowadays.
    Everyone wants to be a bodybuilder tommorow and now you got a slew of young, impressionables who think there is a secret besides extreme mesomorphic genes and response....and these guys listening to this Boston Loyd kid who is what 22 years old and using 13 grams of stuff? And he justifies himself by telling people thats what everyone does? How the hell would a 22 year old kid from northern cali know what a pro bodybuilder from Florida, Texas, or New York does? Does Boston Loyd know what YOU right now who is reading this does juice wise? No he doesnt and he doesnt know what 400 different pro bodybuilders do. 

    The battle cry used to be "where are the bodies...if steroids are so bad?"....well you are seeing them now. The late 90's into the 2000's and the increased access and lower prices due to the internet ....brought on a huge amount of terribly insecure "junky-like" bodybuilders who didnt think longterm.
    And you are starting to see the bodies....but what is coming up? what are we going to see from the last 8 years? It will be ridiculous. Its gotten outrageous with the dosages used and you are going to see alot of people dying and health maladies over the next decade. I watched that Loyd video of him beating his chest saying his blood work was ok. Did Kovacs die 2 months after his abuse? Nasser? Artwood? No they didnt...Virtually any 22 year old kid who abuses himself isnt going to drop dead at 23! But 15-20 years later? Thats is where there is going to be an accumalation of damage.

    What are we seeing over and over of late? Heart failure. The science is there! Anabolic Steroids, Growth Hormone, and Hypertrophy of the Heart
    You combine grams of testosterone with large doses of Growth hormone over time....what is going to happen to you is in the literature above and the consequences below.
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    See people only read about so and so pro bodybuilder who succumbs....nobody hears about the 3rd place finisher of MR Podunk who wanted it so bad and ended up dying at age 47 from his usage.

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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/26 10:25:43 (permalink)
    Good post Oli.


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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/26 10:32:32 (permalink)
    Great post Oli.

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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/26 11:23:12 (permalink)
    Well done Oli people need to learn from cases such as this. Your thoughts are similar to mine. Cases of deaths and bad health Im sure will increase dramatically.

    We only really hear about the big names I know of a number of people over the years from recreational bbers/users to national/domestic level who have died or suffered heart attacks etc... at a very young age - few even made the local papers.

    Perhaps a fitting tribute to Greg would be a warning to others as for me there is no other cause and bbing cant continue to make excuses and/or put its head in the sand.
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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/26 11:44:33 (permalink)
    Very succinctly put Oli - great post.
     
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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/26 11:45:13 (permalink)
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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/26 12:06:57 (permalink)
    Great post, Oli.  However, many would not agree with your opening paragraph; but that's a debate for another thread.
     

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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/26 12:48:20 (permalink)
    R.I.P ...What a shame and so sad.
     
    OLI - Great post. I remember many years ago and having a sit down and cuppa with a pro bodybuilder. I was fascinated in all his medals and trophies (and of course his physique) But I'll never forget him telling me 'Is it really worth my health'? And him dreading the future of getting older and facing the potential consequences that no doubt where waiting for him...
    Made me think long term and glad his pep talk influenced me of use vs abuse.


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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/26 13:44:39 (permalink)
    First off, RIP Greg, you will certainly be missed.
     
    There's no way I can top Oli's post, still I want to say a couple of things. We're fairly close in age, Greg and I.  I had the same dream @18 (I still have it, but @47 it's gonna stay a dream now); to be a HUGE bodybuilder, though back in '86 the magazines would talk about lbs, I didn't know what a Lb even was, I just thought in halves/quarters of stones.  But I still wanted to be BIG.
     
    But I always thought the WHOLE point of bodybuilding was not just to look, but actually BE, healthier than everyone else.  Bigger, faster, stronger, in better shape.  Looking great in either t-shirt or a suit.
     
    Superman.
     
    Somewhere, right at the back of my mind, even at 18 I knew I wanted to be one of those old guys who doesn't get pushed in a wheelchair.  I wanted to be the old guy who pushes those wheelchairs.  Who is still physically imposing in his late 60's.  The old grump hiding a heart of gold who effortlessly picks up his grandkids 3-wheelers by their handlebars, 2 in each hand, after his own kids are all engrossed in conversation, and with a little smile says, "Lazy little buggers nowadays". 
     
    I also knew that if you messed around TOO much, you would pass the tipping point over into UNhealthy.  I always thought I should have one vice in life; I chose booze.  But even then, measured.  I've never known what propels someone to risk his health to such an extent.  Or what lacking he feels.  If he did.  and IF he did, then it's a pity the people he loved, who loved him, didn't succeed in filling that lack.
     
    Greg, buddy, I hope you're happy, in that great big squat rack in the sky.
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    Re:Greg Kovacs Dead 2013/11/26 13:52:46 (permalink)
    great post oli,
     
    thats what keeps me to use rather than abouse my 3 kids and wife.
     
    i definatley do not want to be in that suituation.
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