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HGH vs GRP2 + 6 09 January 2012 12:34 (permalink)
Debating to run HGH or GRP2 + 6 along with cycling AAS's & Poss Slin
 
I am debating to run HGH at 5 - 8 iu a day or to run GPR2 & 6.
 
If i was to run these what would the recomended doses be along with timings?
The last three or four reps is what makes the muscle grow. This area of pain divides the champion from someone else who is not a champion.
 
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    Re:HGH vs GRP2 + 6 09 January 2012 17:12 (permalink)
    Its a hard one if you are asking what's best slin and GH or slin and Ghrp's  
     
    If it was me and was running 8iu of GH i would use 8iu of slin also Twice a day 1 at breakfast and one post workout 
     
    Or Ghrp-2 and Mod Grf at 150mcg each 3-5 times per day with the slin at breakfast and post workout again 
     
    If you are using AAS then slin and GH during the cycle and Ghrp's during your Pct .. Only if funds allow to run GH this long 
     
     
     
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      Re:HGH vs GRP2 + 6 09 January 2012 23:52 (permalink)
      For me GH is long term ££££ commitment, if funds are short or might become short then use G2 & mod grf, results are better the longer you can run it.
      STEP 1 - Admit you have a problem.
      Hi my name is Wannabebigger and i have Bigorexia (muscle dysmorphia).
       
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        Re:HGH vs GRP2 + 6 10 January 2012 08:51 (permalink)
        Thanks for the replys guys.
         
        @Thoon - whats the theory behind the morning shot of slin? I pressume you mean 4iu each shot ?
         
        @Wannabebigger - The funds is not too much of an issue, if it would become an issue for whatever reason is there any reason why i could not switch between GH & G2
        The last three or four reps is what makes the muscle grow. This area of pain divides the champion from someone else who is not a champion.
         
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          Re:HGH vs GRP2 + 6 10 January 2012 12:42 (permalink)
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          Thanks for the replys guys.

          @Thoon - whats the theory behind the morning shot of slin? I pressume you mean 4iu each shot ?

          @Wannabebigger - The funds is not too much of an issue, if it would become an issue for whatever reason is there any reason why i could not switch between GH & G2

           
          The theory is that the morning after you have trained when you wake your body is crying out for nutrients so wake drink shake eat then get the slin in to you and force feed the muscles.
          Start at 4iu of GH and Slin then as you get used to Slin up the dose ..I dont go much over 8iu now days  
           
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            Re:HGH vs GRP2 + 6 10 January 2012 12:42 (permalink)
            How many times a day are you thinking of running the GH ? 
             
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              Re:HGH vs GRP2 + 6 10 January 2012 12:48 (permalink)
              GH is superior to GH releasing peptides IME.
               
              and you know exactly what your getting!
               
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                Re:HGH vs GRP2 + 6 10 January 2012 13:05 (permalink)
                Just 1 jab a day of GH
                 
                Your theory makes sence but doesnt GH increases insulin resistance.
                The last three or four reps is what makes the muscle grow. This area of pain divides the champion from someone else who is not a champion.
                 
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                  Re:HGH vs GRP2 + 6 10 January 2012 13:18 (permalink)
                  Insulin resistance is caused by over eating carbs but HGH gets the blame .
                   
                  Ill have to find the study on this .. 
                   
                  Im a firm believer that the GH that made me in to a adult is far superior than synthetic GH  .
                   
                   
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                    Re:HGH vs GRP2 + 6 10 January 2012 13:19 (permalink)
                    Then with 1 jab a day you could use ghrp-2 and mod pre bed and in tha AM if you wanted ..or use GH on training days and ghrp's on days off 
                     
                    So many ways to skin a cat 
                     
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                      Re:HGH vs GRP2 + 6 10 January 2012 13:28 (permalink)
                      Ghrp-2 and mod
                      Its only a matter of time till i get on this 300mcg a day for 4 months
                      really interested in this
                       
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                        Re:HGH vs GRP2 + 6 10 January 2012 17:08 (permalink)
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                        Insulin resistance is caused by over eating carbs but HGH gets the blame .

                        i think sawdust means shortterm, not longterm, ie round the shots.
                         
                        GH does affect insulin and BG, but off the top of my head im struggling to remember by what action.  Im pretty sure when using GH your more likely to end up with higher BG, because it blunts insulin response.  but if your taking insulin at the same time, its not going to be a problem particularly.
                         
                        I do think Insulin and GH combined works synergistically, and i think it makes sense IMO to take the two at the same time.
                         
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                          Re:HGH vs GRP2 + 6 10 January 2012 19:38 (permalink)
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                          Then with 1 jab a day you could use ghrp-2 and mod pre bed and in tha AM if you wanted ..or use GH on training days and ghrp's on days off 

                          So many ways to skin a cat 


                          This is something else i was going to look into when i swap from GH pre bed shot to post workout with slin, then i could use the G6/G2 on the am shot, maybe then add slin to the am shot.
                           
                          Where do you stop with the ideas!!
                          STEP 1 - Admit you have a problem.
                          Hi my name is Wannabebigger and i have Bigorexia (muscle dysmorphia).
                           
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                            Re:HGH vs GRP2 + 6 10 January 2012 20:18 (permalink)
                            GH does not affect insulin resistance directly from the way i understand it HGH makes the Pancreas realise Glucose which after long term use the body becomes desensitized to insulin (blunting insulin response)..I you have periods of no carbs (and no GH), to help maintain (and improve) insulin sensitivity use met if needed you should be fine .
                             
                            If HGH would cause insulin resistance, then we would have foundthat young children especially between age 12 and 16, would be insulin resistant. Or we would have found that insulin resistance in young adults is less than insulin resistance in kids age 12to 16... Nobody has found this, because most kids are not insulin resistant, and most young adults are not insulinresistant... it is older adults, after they have eaten badly forseveral years, that become insulin resistant.
                            I have been asked, more to the point, if HGH will causeDIABETES, or if somebody who has diabetes can use HGH.
                            My answer to that is very different than what Dr. Bernsteinwould answer, because Dr. Bernstein would probably say thatyou cannot take HGH if you are diabetic... But I don'tagree that HGH causes diabetes, and I don't agree thata diabetic cannot take HGH. I think diabetes is caused from40 or 50 or 60 years of eating too many carbs and raisingyour blood glucose enough times during your life so thatat some point you have accumulated enough damage to beconsidered a diabetic...
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                            That is just my take on Gh causing these problems from my research but it is good to hear other ideas and theories on the subject ..
                             
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                              Re:HGH vs GRP2 + 6 13 January 2012 08:45 (permalink)
                              Another option would be ghrp/grf shot then 15mins later a small hgh shot (1-3iu). The results come thick and fast this way you have the best of both worlds. With the small hgh shot your body does not recognise the long acting hgh and keeps the action to a pulse.
                               
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